Normal End Levels For BG2 + ToB?
unkinhead
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Skip to next paragrah if you don't care why: I would really like a table or something i could refer to that would tell me an approximate end level or xp progress throughout the game, as i do a lot of playthroughs of BG, so i like strategizing my character progression, i want to be at a certain point in the game with a dual classed character...Anyways, as far as i know their is no table online (which makes sense because there are a lot of variables). I understand that there is going to be different levels depending on quests, enemies, class, etc...However, if possible, i would like to gather an approximate/normal level end for BG2 and ToB so i can pace out my multi/dual classes better. I would also like to know what party size is ideal for a certain level progression. Thanks
Basically i would like some people to post their end game levels, with how many players are in their party. IE:
Fighter/Mage SoA: 21/23 ToB: 36/39 Solo (Example)
Any help/input would be appreciated
Thanks
Basically i would like some people to post their end game levels, with how many players are in their party. IE:
Fighter/Mage SoA: 21/23 ToB: 36/39 Solo (Example)
Any help/input would be appreciated
Thanks
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ToB still remains.
For a Paladin this put him at level 19 at the end of SOA with a full party. I anticipate hitting the 8 million XP before the end of TOB.
I just beat Gromnir and most of my team is over 7 million exp, Hexxat is level 39 for example. I'm not at my machine with my save but I was super completionist, scribed most scrolls on most merchants, did Watcher's Keep, and killed most of the drow in SCS enhanced Ust Natha.
Ending ToB might be like 6.5 to 7 million if I do Watcher's Keep. Its been awhile so thats just a guess.
Really? What did I miss in ToB?!
I had 3M xp at the beginning of ToB, cos I didn't touch WK and also skipped some other quests.
I've just arrived at the final battle in ToB, and I only got 5M xp, which unfortunately means Charname and Aerie never got lv9 Mage spells, and Imoen never got Planetar.
I had about the same amount of exp as you, ~3M at the end of SoA and maybe 5.5M at the end of ToB. I did WK and "most" of the quests but I didn't kill everything there was to kill and invis'ed past some stuff like the Tethyrian army because I felt bad/couldn't be bothered. I can see how you could hit 6.5M or 7M on a more completionist playthrough.
Finished ToB with 6 mio (again Rasaad & Neera quests) but Jan never got his 9th level spells
Keep in mind that you can get around 700 kXP for scribing a full set of spells IIRC. I looted some stores and hired Edwin and Nalia for scribing leftover scrolls in between.
Watcher's Keep is a big boost. I also got the Throne card (+1 million xp).
There's quite a bit of varianility in XP from enemies as well - doing the Unseeing Eye quest after the Underdark will get you loads of XP from Elder Orbs, and the Umar Hills has a number of random Liches at higher levels. Doing either quest earlier has low level Guaths or undead instead.
To have a nice estimate for other party configs, you can multiply this by six and divide by how many party members you intend to have. Actually, that's not good - you need to deduct the quest XP, which is unknown. Does anyone have a good estimate for that?
I hit the level cap easily with a 6 man party by power gaming all of the exp choices and killing everything that wouldn't kill my rep. Also memorizing every scroll I could steal in SOA. I stole all the ones in TOB too but didn't men them because I was too lazy by that point to forget spells...
I didn't realise that I'd never get to lv9 Arcane spells with Charname and Aerie, so they had both learnt Wish, which obviously consumed the scrolls... but then never got a lv9 spell slot to actually use it.
Thus Wish was never an option for me in that marathon battle. I expect it would have made life a lot easier. Oh yeah Charname and Aerie had 16 Wisdom each, Imoen had 11, hence why I didn't try to have Imoen learn Wish, even though she did have access to lv9 spells. Imoen never got to throw a Planetar at anybody (gained that HLA during the final battle), which was another disappointment.
I can't wait to use a pure caster like Neera in my next playthrough. I watched Tord's Lilly Black LP. Lilly, a Wild Mage, got to throw Planetars at Irenicus in SoA! I didn't even get there for Melissan!
I never used Wish either (it doesn't blow anyone up and is therefore useless)
What difficulty did you play on?
I beat the last battle 3 times now...
1st time: plenty of reloads, abused wish...(Normal)
2nd time: plenty of reloads, no wish used (Normal)
3rd time: no reload, no wish... (Core Rules)
It was extremely close though...Charname was the only one living, and all of her final summons (like a beholder, and 1500000 Glaberuzu) were all pummeling me, and Melissian was only at injured...Not sure how but using Whirlwind attack/Ring of Gaxx Improved Haste/Superior Healing Potions i killed her literally with only a second to spare for life... It was truly epic. I believe i had 2 HP at the end, and had recently taken a potion or performed an action so couldn't heal...
The biggest problem with a no wish/rest battle is that by the final stage, your entire party is Fatigued via x2 Haste. And it hurts more than i would like it too...
Core Rules... I usually always play games on the difficulty where neither u or ur opponents get any arbitary bonuses or penalties. If it's too easy (BG isn't), then I introduce my own restrictions, like in this case, realistic rest, non-min/max'd stats, playing blind, no Shield of Balduran etc...
And casting Improved invisibility and Project Image with a Contingency with Spell Immunity Divination when Helpless don't seems like power gaming, it seems like an ultra wise and smart PC (mine had 21 INT and 19 WIS) to me. But if you put another Project Image in the Chain Contingency with Haste and Spell Immunity Divination IS cheating, because you'll have yet another HASTED Project Image!!
And winning that first half took me 5 reloads (death only, they are so though!), then, it is so complicated that after the second time in the second half I quitted and went to farm UnderSigil in PS:T.
I'd prefer playing on Core but with maxed HP and no failure to res and scribe scrolls. I know you can simulate it by changing the difficulty when leveling up and scribing, but that's kind of annoying. I really hate how unlucky you can be in these games. For a fighter, the difference between being lucky and unlucky is 81 HP, and that's an awful lot.