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Smaller parties and XP

RedWizardRedWizard Member Posts: 242
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Recently tried my first trio in BG2 and frankly... xp really isn't that different. You get such huge loads of xp as quest experience, and so far the only difference I've noticed is a single level, heck it actually just feels as if I'm getting that level just a little earlier than with 6.
I'm guessing it's a lot more noticeable with while soloing or maybe with a duo?

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  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477
    edited January 2014
    I duo'd with Imoen and the Imoen Romance mod (t'was fun by the way) both of us were swashbuckler4/mage dual and though BG1 was tough without a tank, we both had pips in bows so it wasn't that bad and BGII was just too easy..

    conclusion => solo/dual'd mage without XP cap is a very matured cheese
    Post edited by Fredjo on
  • mumumomomumumomo Member Posts: 635
    Big news : In trio, you get xp twice as fast as in a 6-man group.

    The more you get into the game, the bigger the gap is :
    - at 3M XP : 6-man group : level 10-11. trio : level 12-13. Very Small difference
    - at 9 M XP : 6-man : level 14-15. trio : level 18-20 -> huge difference (HLA, level 9 spells,...)
    - at 18 M XP (end of SOA) : 6 man : level 18-20. 3 man : level 30. Still big difference
    - From there the 6 -man party will slowly catch up because of the cap.

    So, you will really start noticing the extra power of your team members by mid SOA.

    Furthermore, playing in small group is also much easier because of :
    - you don't have to deal with the clumsy AI and pathfinding
    - micromanaging in more bearable
    - ressources (equipment, potions,...) are less split between team members


  • karnor00karnor00 Member Posts: 680
    I think the point the OP was making is that you don't get xp twice as fast in a 3 man group compared to a 6 man group. Quest experience isn't split between the group - everyone get's the same amount whether it's a 6 man group or a 3 man group.

    So it's more like getting XP only 50% faster in a 3 man compared to a 6 man. It adds up over time, but means that 6 man groups aren't overly penalised.
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    as @karnor00 said, you get quest XP in bg2, so party members get the majority of their XP set

    In bg1 however it's really really noticeable. By soloing or duo-ing you can hit max level by the end of cloakwood mines or sooner
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    It's all just guesswork until someone actually comes up with numbers for the ratio of quest XP vs group XP in the game.
  • BigfishBigfish Member Posts: 367
    It's not even just the ratio, but the order you do things in. If you do a lot of quests that award individual XP, you won't level as fast as going out and killing several of some tough monster.

    Trios are pretty close to 6 mans as far as xp from kills go. You only get double xp for kills, where as duos get triple and solos get 6x.

    It gets worse if you account for quest xp. If quest xp is 25% of the xp ratio, you only get 1.75x the xp of a 6 man, at 50% quest xp 1.38x, and at 75% it is 1.09x.
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    A BG1 solo run can make you end as Swashbuckler level 16 -> Mage Level 8.
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    Why would you go to Swashbuckler 16? Don't you get the bonus at 15?
  • kryptixkryptix Member Posts: 741
    If you really want to milk the exp you need to do things like resting in areas where you get attacked until enemies stop spawning like the yaga shura siege camp you can get like 10 more fire giant kills at least doing that, also keep clicking wrong answers etc until enemies stop spawning :)
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Fredjo said:

    I duo'd with Imoen and the Imoen Romance mod (t'was fun by the way) both of us were swashbuckler4/mage dual and though BG1 was tough without a tank, we both had pips in bows so it wasn't that bad and BGII was just too easy..

    conclusion => solo/dual'd mage without XP cap is a very matured cheese

    Ick. She's your SISTER, Man. But then again, she is way cooler than Aerie, so....

    Man, I must be watching too much Archer.

  • BigfishBigfish Member Posts: 367
    the_spyder said:

    Fredjo said:

    I duo'd with Imoen and the Imoen Romance mod (t'was fun by the way) both of us were swashbuckler4/mage dual and though BG1 was tough without a tank, we both had pips in bows so it wasn't that bad and BGII was just too easy..

    conclusion => solo/dual'd mage without XP cap is a very matured cheese

    Ick. She's your SISTER, Man. But then again, she is way cooler than Aerie, so....

    Man, I must be watching too much Archer.

    That just creates the potential for the God of Murder to be reborn in to inbred offspring of sibling love. Which would be hilarious.
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    @Eudaemonium thief trap upgrade and another trap :)
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Bigfish said:

    the_spyder said:

    Fredjo said:

    I duo'd with Imoen and the Imoen Romance mod (t'was fun by the way) both of us were swashbuckler4/mage dual and though BG1 was tough without a tank, we both had pips in bows so it wasn't that bad and BGII was just too easy..

    conclusion => solo/dual'd mage without XP cap is a very matured cheese

    Ick. She's your SISTER, Man. But then again, she is way cooler than Aerie, so....

    Man, I must be watching too much Archer.

    That just creates the potential for the God of Murder to be reborn in to inbred offspring of sibling love. Which would be hilarious.
    Baby Shamus!!!!

  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477
    the_spyder said:

    Fredjo said:

    I duo'd with Imoen and the Imoen Romance mod (t'was fun by the way) both of us were swashbuckler4/mage dual and though BG1 was tough without a tank, we both had pips in bows so it wasn't that bad and BGII was just too easy..

    conclusion => solo/dual'd mage without XP cap is a very matured cheese

    Ick. She's your SISTER, Man. But then again, she is way cooler than Aerie, so....

    Man, I must be watching too much Archer.



    Lesbian incestous couple with the Bhaalspawn blood running in their veins and nobody they've met in their adventures gave a single damn

    Sword Coast seem to be more liberal than any other country on our planet... well unless you mess with the guards because They ARE the law!
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    Fredjo said:

    the_spyder said:

    Fredjo said:

    I duo'd with Imoen and the Imoen Romance mod (t'was fun by the way) both of us were swashbuckler4/mage dual and though BG1 was tough without a tank, we both had pips in bows so it wasn't that bad and BGII was just too easy..

    conclusion => solo/dual'd mage without XP cap is a very matured cheese

    Ick. She's your SISTER, Man. But then again, she is way cooler than Aerie, so....

    Man, I must be watching too much Archer.



    Lesbian incestous couple with the Bhaalspawn blood running in their veins and nobody they've met in their adventures gave a single damn

    Sword Coast seem to be more liberal than any other country on our planet... well unless you mess with the guards because They ARE the law!
    LAW? Look the sort of people Gorion adopted in my last game!!
    image LAW? He's gonna have the best time with Imoen despite of being a Quasit!!
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