Best swords in the Game
emporerpants
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What are the best 2-handed and long swords in the game? Just curious.
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Lilacor is very good because u can get it very early.
Silver Sword is very good for the mid-game because it can insta-kill.
ToB has some very high enchantment ones, which are useful for certain enemies otherwise immune to low enchantment weapons.
Also, a fighter/thief can use carsomyr (and it's evil counterpart, found in ToB) to great effect.
Longswords are somewhat finesse-oriented, not extremely powerful and probably aren't suited for five proficiency points. They're very good on fighter/mages.
The best longsword in soa is found at the end of the game (there's a catch to obtaining it) and is only bested (maybe) by one sword in relatively mid-to-late tob.
Bastard swords are great because there is *one* exceptional bastard sword in early ToB. They are worth investing five proficiency points into if you're a fighter, but be mindful that there are no particularly good bastard swords in SoA (there's one that's ok).
Carsomyr can also be wielded by those who possess the Use Any Item HLA, that is high-level rouges.
Anyways here's the two best swords for the endgame (in my opinion). The second one u can actually get pretty early, but like Carsomyr, it has a lot of restrictions.
+Gram the Sword of Grief +5 +5 THACO, 10% change +2-24 poison damage, +5% magic res., target loses one level each hit
+Ir'revrykal +5 "The Unholy Reaver" (Immunity to Charm, 50% chance to dispell magic on hit, 1D10+5, +5 vs good. Blackguards Only) This is a new BG 2 EE item that was not included in the original game
Edit: So basicaly... if u cannot use Carsomyr or Ir'revrykal, I think the best 2 handers are:
Find Lilacor as soon as you leave Irenicus's dungeon. Its immunities are really useful for the early game, as is the +3 enchantment.
Switch to the Silver Sword when u find the components to forge it. That's gonna be great until near the end of ToB, where u might wanna switch to Gram the Sword of Grief for the extra enchantment levels to hit otherwise immune enemies.
Anyways that's just my opinion based on what I know. I am no expert... there might be better combos out there.
Mike's RPG center has a good listing and description of the various BG1 and BG2 nonEE weapons. http://mikesrpgcenter.com/bgate2/weapons/longswords.html
Namarra+2: It has the added effect of +2 bonus damage and the spell Silent 15 radius once per day (save at -5). Great if you dont have a cleric. It's readily available in Chpt 2.
Ras+2: Summons a +2 sword that acts like the mage spell mordy sword for 4 rounds. Short duration, but it's immune to ALL physical and elemental attacks. Also available in Chpt 2 after doing some quests.
Dragonslayer+2: Immunity to Fear, double damage against dragons. Detect Invisibility once per day. Useful only if you dont have a cleric/mage/cavalier/potions. Not something you bother with in most situations (There is 1 situation when this is useful).
Daystar+2: Enables Sundawn once per day. Azuerlage is the better weapon for going after undead.
Adjatha the Drinker+2: Immune to Charm and Domination. Skip this once you have the Helm of Charm protection. Charm immunity = domination immunity in BG2.
Flametongue+1: You may think this is a crappy sword, but this one has +4 enchantment. Go kill Kangaax with this sword. Available early in Chpt 2 at a sidequest.
Blade of Roses+3: +2 Charisma. Available early in Chpt 2. I dont know why you want this sword unless you really NEED the +3 bonus in THACO.
Sword of Balduran+2: +10 MR and some lore bonus. Skip unless you have a Balduran fetish. Available in Chpt 2.
Flametongue+1: Possibly the most pathetic named longsword in BG2. Available in Chpt 2.
Equalizer+3: Decent sword, but it's eclipsed by most stuff you can find. Let's you to figure out the alignment of enemies since most are evil. Available in Chpt 6.
Blackrazor+3: The epitome of longswords. Can only acquire if you are evil.
The Answere+4: Decent sword. It gets easier with successive hit.
Angurvadal+5: Again decent weapon. However, being a longsword means that it is eclipsed by all most other weapon types.
The best 1 hand weapon is a huge debate between Foebane +5, Flail of Ages +5 and Crom Freyr +5.
What it comes down to is that Crom Freyr's STR bonus makes it the best weapon if you can't get your strength to at least 21 naturally. At 22 strength its situation whether it is the best main hand or offhand or if you can do better with a different combination. Foebane hits slightly weaker than the others but it has a significant life drain so that can tip the scales in its favor in a real fight. Flail of Ages prevents haste which means you hit half as many times which makes it weaker, but it doesn't prevent Greater Whirlwind so if you don't have improved haste in the first place its great.
If you insist on Swords, the above metioned progression for two hand swords, from Lilacor, to Silver Sword to Gram is probably the best.
Longswords its probably Daystar (now that its +4) throughout SOA since you can get it first thing, then maybe Blackrazor if you play non-ee you can get it even if your good, and actually just Daystar throughout...
The Answerer's problem is that if you can hit it with The Answerer, you can hit it harder with Daystar. Angurvadal's problem is that it acutally usually does about the samge damage as Daystar, you get it much later, and its only 22 strength which you will probably have anyway. Therefore, I'd just go with Daystar and Blackrazor...
It has as an additional special bonus *against undead* (all undead are also evil) in the form of 3-10 magic damage. Pretty cool but not exactly "double damage" as advertised.
Namarra does not have +2 special ability bonus damage on top of a +2 enhancement bonus but simply a +4 enhancement damage bonus, which is better than Daystar, but it only has +2 thac0 (Daystar is overall better).
(^ @bbear )
Also the 'Blade of Roses' is a good weapon before you get Daystar, it's +3thac0/+3dmg is generally better than Namarra's +2thac0/+4dmg --- Daystar is better, but if you are inexperienced, acquiring it early on will be difficult, so buy the Blade of Roses before advancing the story and get it later.
Blackrazor is by faaaaar the best by virtue of its brutal offensive special ability. You can also get this sword if you are not evil, but doing so will turn you evil.
'Dragon Slayer' works well against dragons i guess (it says that it does double damage, but probably does something else judging how Daystar doesn't do double damage against undead either)
So, this is the longsword progression: Namarra > Sword of Roses > Daystar > Blackrazor > Angurvadal (just on par with Blackrazor)
For long swords namarra is great for the extra damage and being able to silence bomb enemies with a scout without worrying about hitting a spell caster. Daystar if only to use its special ability and the blackrazor obviously
My personal recommendation would be to pick a weapon style (2 weapon or 2 handed) and stick to that. Like 2H swords and halberds/spears. Or dual wielding longswords with bastard swords/axes. If you want 2H swords and long swords for role playing reasons that is still viable.
It's a +3, it doesn't speak like Lilacor does, and it does ice damage as a bonus damage type too, it's really decent.
As for getting it early, if you play unmodded its ridiculously easy to get just jump viconia in and out of the room until the lich runs out of spells (she's immune to most of them anyway) you'll have to wait for one pitfiend to despawn. Actually with protection from evil on in vanilla, the pit fiend has a good chance to kill the lich for you. With SCS that doesn't quite work because you get locked in. With Vanilla a hasted thief with boots of speed can also grab the sword and run back out before the lich does anything. Also you can have someone throw azuredge at him like 4-5 reloads and he will die once in vanilla.
Don't forget belm and kudane which add an attack. Available pretty early on as well.
2h swords honestly are not the best damage dealers. Carsomyr +6 is the best but pally only unless thief.
There is 1 good spear and 1 good hailberd the hailberd happens to be the best in game which is the ravager +6
If your dual wielding answerer and kudane or belm are the best. With daystar as your anti undead weapon. Dragonslayer as your anti dragon.
If you happen to play any type of fighter Mage or theif Mage combination out answerer in your offhand and cast mefs minute meteors the effect still procs on each hit so you can lower enemy magic resist and thaco very quickly. I do this with my imoen often.