Vampires too hard with my party?
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I can't find a reasonable way to fight vampires right now. I am still in the early game, level 10-11, and I've fought vampires 6 times so far, 4 with the random city night encounters and a couple groups on side quests.
I know the encounters are suppose to be avoidable, but i keep getting into situations where i was doing a side quest at day, went in someones house to talk and such, and when i get outside its dark. Cant go back in the house to rest and the vampires are nearly inevitable without trying to rest 5 times over and over again in the city with guards stopping you (which feels silly to do). I'm sure I will encounter more vamps on side quests too.
Nothing I say to them will get them to leave me alone since I have Edwin in my party as my mage which makes them all attack me due to shadow thieve relations (who cant use the amulet of power) and I don't want to waste the proficiency points to get anyone efficient with maces and go through the process of upgrading Mace of Disruption.
Right now my only way to kill them is after they surprise me and guarantee kill my entire party, I have to load, find exactly where they camp at, pre-buff to the extreme, and use my druid and Edwin to make 5 summons and hope the summons don't all die before my archer and Edwin's spells can pick them off using pause every second to survey the damage. I find it incredibly cheesy to have to do this every time I see a vampire, and would like to actually be able to fight them when they come up, anyone have ideas?
Party -Playerchar archer, Jan, Korgan, Edwin, Jaheira, and Rasaad
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I can't find a reasonable way to fight vampires right now. I am still in the early game, level 10-11, and I've fought vampires 6 times so far, 4 with the random city night encounters and a couple groups on side quests.
I know the encounters are suppose to be avoidable, but i keep getting into situations where i was doing a side quest at day, went in someones house to talk and such, and when i get outside its dark. Cant go back in the house to rest and the vampires are nearly inevitable without trying to rest 5 times over and over again in the city with guards stopping you (which feels silly to do). I'm sure I will encounter more vamps on side quests too.
Nothing I say to them will get them to leave me alone since I have Edwin in my party as my mage which makes them all attack me due to shadow thieve relations (who cant use the amulet of power) and I don't want to waste the proficiency points to get anyone efficient with maces and go through the process of upgrading Mace of Disruption.
Right now my only way to kill them is after they surprise me and guarantee kill my entire party, I have to load, find exactly where they camp at, pre-buff to the extreme, and use my druid and Edwin to make 5 summons and hope the summons don't all die before my archer and Edwin's spells can pick them off using pause every second to survey the damage. I find it incredibly cheesy to have to do this every time I see a vampire, and would like to actually be able to fight them when they come up, anyone have ideas?
Party -Playerchar archer, Jan, Korgan, Edwin, Jaheira, and Rasaad
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Tactics wise... it is safer to travel during the day, so check out the time, if it's nearly night time, speed up what u do. Unless u leave the game running whilst afk, the hours shouldn't fly by THAT quickly.
Vampires are nasty for two main reasons (at least in my experience). Level Drain and charm magic. You can counter the latter with Chaotic Commands for a frontliner, and if that fails, you can Dire Charm somebody back if they get dominated by a vampire. Preventing Level drain is basically just about preventing melee damage, which is just a matter of combat buffs like Chant, Protection from Evil, Defensive Harmony, Bless etc... Basically a Cleric would help a lot. I think Negative Plane Protection is Cleric only as well (Or can Jaheira cast it too?) If somebody has to get drained, it's not as bad for fighters like Korgan compared to spellcasters like Edwin.
- level drain
- domination
With your group :
- have everybody flee save for jaheira and korgan
- equip jaheira with the amulet of power and cast chaotic command on self and enrage korgan
- the vampire will target these two which they cannot really affect
- proceed to slaughter the vampires with no risk and get the easy xp
Or you could find a certain longsword and introduce vampires to the power of the sun.
Oh yeah, as Heindrich suggested, don't forget Chaotic Commends! It lasts a long time, and Jaheira herself can cast it. Just always have it going when you're out at night.
And even using it in the mainhand without mace proficiency isn't too awful. It's -2 to hit (for a fighter type class) and you are limited to 1 attack/round. But the level drain immunity still works so whoever it using it can still tank the vampires just fine.
"Oh I'M sorry! Did my blade pierce your everything?"
Funny thing, in PNP "Negative Plane Protection" is only good for a single hit. It makes these things a little trickier. Oh and "Restoration" ages the caster a year (or maybe three? I get it and "Resurrection" confused sometimes), so that's a pretty difficult spell to get a hold of.
But in BG, level drains aren't quite as scary. Send those blood suckers back to the abyss...
It was already mentioned but Rasaad's sun soulray ability will help you a lot here.
You might want to consider getting Animate Dead (level 5) for Edwin. You can buy it in the spell store in the promenade. The summons it creates will be quite effective for you against a wide range of enemies (including vampires).