Watcher's keep...

ravagu3r

I'm trying to do Watcher's keep right now, but level 3 is insanely hard when it's room with demons... I run a 2 party group of myself a fighter/cleric and Korgan (evil dwarf RP gameplay)

Demons hit very hard, are on haste and have loads of magic... When I appear in a room I instantly get killed in 5 sec, is that normal ? Should I bee avoiding lvl 3 and down until im much higher lvl ?! (currently lvl 11/12 and 15)

I'm trying to do a full walk-through in Hard mode

Any help welcome

Loub

Protection From Evil 10' Radius makes your whole party completely undetectable to demonic eyes, allowing you to wail on them without fear of retribution.

The same strategy applies to Protection from Undead, only instead of demons it works against undead - pure cheese (applies even to the strongest of Liches).

Bolts of Glory will also make short work of them offensively.

And I am sounding like a complete idiot. Ech. I really shouldn't have chugged down that 3-litre Coke bottle all by myself. It sounds sound like I'm on crack. Moral of the story: people with ADHD shouldn't take such enormous amouns of caffeine. I am also experiencing an insatiable craving for tomatoes, which I couldn't sate even after eating a whole bowl of them with vinegar and basils. I am also retching when exposed to the smell of dairy products. I am also unable to taste the insides of my nose with my tongue, which is numb due to all the vinegar. My nose is also becoming irritated due to me sticking my tongue up my nostrils for about 5 minutes straight. My nose is now bleeding due to my nostril licking triggering my sinusitis. My blood is not very tasty, maybe if I put sugar on it it would become more palatable, since it would taste exactly like concentrated Irn-Bru, though Irn-Bru is not conventionally tasty, since it tastes of blood and sugar.

CrevsDaak

Loub said:

Protection From Evil 10' Radius makes your whole party completely undetectable to demonic eyes, allowing you to wail on them without fear of retribution.

Only if they are Gated, if not, the spell just gives you AC bonus and a Saving Throws bonus.

ravagu3r

Protection from Evil does nothing much in my situation, I still get destroyed in seconds sadly...

Necomancer

I would recommend leaving for now and coming back when you have a few more levels. Like...50 more at least.

...What? I'm a coward.

Loub

Er... then I would suggest you wait until you can summon Devas before tackling on the third level. Reaching 3m exp is not that hard - I just broke that mark and am still on Chapter 2 in my current run with a 4 person party.

Also, my blood is still not tasty after I put sugar on it, since instead of dissolving the sugar decided to absorb my blood particles creating bloody granulated crystals, which is fascinating, although unpalatable since it doesn't taste much like sugar at all.
I wonder what will happen if I put flour on it.
Or corn starch.
Or granola.
Too bad the bleeding is ceasing - maybe I could try doing oral on my nostrils again to trigger another sinusistic crisis?

I think I am also having olfactory hallucinations, since I am smelling foot odor that isn't coming from my feet.

I am now eating my own earwax, which is surprisingly tasty due to the olfactory and palative hallucinations I am having.

elminster

Necomancer said:

I would recommend leaving for now and coming back when you have a few more levels. Like...50 more at least.

...What? I'm a coward.

That's alright. I was thinking of writing it but I didn't have the courage. That makes me an even bigger coward! :P

bbear

Unless your AC is very low (-10 and below), those demons will decimate you. I had one game where the demons could hit only at critical. I also used the kiting strategy and they could still kill my solo PC very quickly.

In your case, I would focus on getting physical resistance. Armor of Faith+Defender of Easthaven (flail from bonus merchant)+ HLA hardiness should give you 75% physical resistance.

Aristillius

You all right there @Loub?
But yeah, you might want to hold off the remaining levels until youve lvled some more - it should be good once youve got some more lvls and some more awesome gear

Loub

Aristillius said:

You all right there @Loub?
But yeah, you might want to hold off the remaining levels until youve lvled some more - it should be good once youve got some more lvls and some more awesome gear

I'm okay now - I was driven to psychosis yesterday due to a synergy between Caffeine and Methylphenidate. Like demonstrated here, I was driven to delirium, which is fancy for 'batshit insanity' - reading my own statements now I feel overcome by a sense of disturbance, as well as nausea. My clothes, bedsheets and dishes were full of blood by the morning - my apartment looked like a murder scene, I'm somewhat surprised by the aamount of blood that came gushing through my nose looking at the smears, and puzzled as to why I didn't pass out.

Yeah, I agree with you on that - WK should only be attempted after you have quite a few HLAs, notably Summon Deva and Planetar, which is unfortunately off-limits to the OP. Assassination, Spike Traps and Time Stop would also be very useful in that dungeon, although these too are unattainable by the master of this thread.

Aristillius

Aw man @Loub, that doesnt sound very good. Here's hoping you feel better now!