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simplessimples Member Posts: 540
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so say i'd fancy having (for example) ribald, quayle, phaere, mae'var and ryan trawl in my party and i'd ctrl+q them in. would there be any consequences? would they level up normally etc?

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  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    edited May 2014
    or even better: in baldurs gate 2, you don't join the twisted rune. the twisted rune joins YOU!
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  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    The only potential obstacles that come to mind are missing animations and potential crashes when viewing the character record and the (possibly) unusable inventory screen. Can't say for certain.
  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    i'd imagine going down to the final fight in soa would be problematic, but then again it might just do the same as when you're riding solo
  • bbearbbear Member Posts: 1,180
    The game may crash if you try to level up cltr-q targets. Also, make sure they finish all the in-game scripted dialogues first or otherwise your game cant proceed. For example, you shouldnt cltr-q Hendak before his scripted fight and dialogue.
  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    would ctrl+q'ing hostile creatures give any problems then? since most of them don't have any dialogue? (new party being "ruffian, thug" etc)
  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    edited May 2014
    Similar issues, I would think, with respect to animations, & character record/inventory screens.
  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    like what? because "ruffian" or "thug" has a standard character model and appearance, so does ribald for example. i did notice some npc's were level x with 0 xp and no proficiencies, so i could see that being problematic.
  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    just ctrl+q'd elhan and he has two scimitars i'd never heard of. they kill bards if they don't make their save. i googled them and apparently they're inherently evil and were made by thayvian wizards to kill harpers. learn something new every day i suppose.
  • bbearbbear Member Posts: 1,180
    simples said:

    just ctrl+q'd elhan and he has two scimitars i'd never heard of. they kill bards if they don't make their save. i googled them and apparently they're inherently evil and were made by thayvian wizards to kill harpers. learn something new every day i suppose.

    Try it on Haer'Dalis and see if it actually works.
  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    yep it worked, elhan did 5 dmg and killed him outright
  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    edited May 2014
    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Shazzellim there we go, that's it.
    edit: the saving throw is -4 vs spell
  • SharGuidesMyHandSharGuidesMyHand Member Posts: 2,586
    simples said:

    so say i'd fancy having (for example) ribald, quayle, phaere, mae'var and ryan trawl in my party and i'd ctrl+q them in. would there be any consequences? would they level up normally etc?

    "Ctrl+q"-ing characters into your party is great for s's & g's, but there is the potential for numerous problems if you plan on using them for the long haul. For example, I've seen things like characters getting stuck in dialogue loops, or spells/innate abilities that are listed but don't work.

    I don't want to discourage you from your experimenting, because (and speaking from first-hand experience) I know it can be fun and interesting. But at the same time, don't go into this with the expectation that there won't be issues cropping up. Simply put, the makers never intended for these characters to be playable, and it shows.
  • bbearbbear Member Posts: 1,180
    I think this is fine if you want to recruit former NPCs like Garrick, Quayle, Tiax, Coran, Safana, Xzar into the party in BG2. Make sure to remove any special items (invisible rings, belts, etc) that make them immune to death.
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    simples said:

    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Shazzellim there we go, that's it.
    edit: the saving throw is -4 vs spell

    I sometimes kill Elhan because I want his scimitars :3
    I'm mad for unique items, and when I play with a complete party I can carry them all!
  • simplessimples Member Posts: 540
    edited May 2014
    i love how coran has his original voice set though

    edit: also, it seems weird that in bg1 he was just standing on a bridge looking at god knows what and asks you to help him, you take him on a grand, epic adventure and in bg2 after rescuing him, all he wants to do is go down the pub and get pissed
  • jackjackjackjack Member Posts: 3,251
    ^^^ Must read adventure journal ^^^
  • FlashburnFlashburn Member Posts: 1,847
    @jackjack‌
    I've got a lot of free time now that finals are over. Would anyone be interested in reading about such a playthrough?
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    Flashburn said:

    Would anyone be interested in reading about such a playthrough?

    I would :D
    And probably many people else!
  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    Flashburn said:

    "So a shadow, a pit-fiend, a kobold commando, a slaver guard, a drow mage, and a Bhaalspawn all walk into the Copper Coronet..."

    Don't forget to bring a Xvart too :image
  • FlashburnFlashburn Member Posts: 1,847
    Okay, I've started the playthrough and its going on here:

    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/31973/the-adventures-of-gaspar-the-suavest-swashbuckler-to-sail-the-seven-seas-ctrl-q-playthrough#latest


    Carry on, threadgoers.
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