[(BG2) bug] Lore, thieving skills

CamDawg

Some final corrections to the lookup tables. Lore for 15 INT/WIS should only be 3, not 5, and the move silently bonuses for elves, half-elves, and halflings were five points too high:

// Fix the incorrect thieving skill racial bonus for elves, half-elves and halflings (Hurricane and aVENGER)
COPY_EXISTING skillrac.2da override
  SET_2DA_ENTRY 2 4 8 15 // elf MS 20 => 15
  SET_2DA_ENTRY 4 4 8 10 // halfelf MS 15 => 10
  SET_2DA_ENTRY 5 4 8 20 // halfling MS 25 => 20
  BUT_ONLY

// Fix the incorrect lore bonus for 15 INT/WIS (Ascension 64 and Hurricane)
COPY_EXISTING lorebon.2da override
  REPLACE_TEXTUALLY ~^15.+$~ ~15      3~
  BUT_ONLY

Tanthalas

@CamDawg

The BG2 manual actually says that the racial bonus to Move Silently is:

Elf -> 5%
Half-elf -> nothing
Halfling -> 10%

Not sure what the correct number should be.

CamDawg

skillrac.2da is the sum of the base score and racial bonuses--everyone starts at 10 for move silently, so elves at +5 start at 15, half-elves with no bonus remain at 10, and halflings at +10 end up at 20. This was originally aVENGER's find and fix if you want more background.

Tanthalas

Ah ok, I didn't understand that those values were the sum of two different numbers.

CamDawg

No worries, I scratched my head when I first saw it, too.

SethDavis

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AndreaColombo

The backward post further adds to @SethDavis' already well-document awesomeness. @Avenger_teambg may want to document this as well

Bhryaen

Confirmed Applied:

SKILRACE.2DA:
Elf MS reduced to +15%
Halfelf MS reduced to +10%
Halfling MS reduced to +20%

Not enough things about halflings to nerf really...

LOREBON.2DA:
15- VALUE reduced to +3%

Tanthalas

Confirmed Fixed in Build 0914

At character generation with these 13 Dex races we get the following values for Move Silently:

Elf -> 15
Half-elf -> 10
Hafling -> 20

Also confirmed that a character starting with 15 WIS and 15 INT received 3 extra lore from each stat.