How often should "Command" work?

SharGuidesMyHand

I recently downloaded the cleric of Tyr mod for BG1 (thanks to @Rhaella‌ BTW), but while testing it out, I tried casting "command" several times during battles with Shank, and it typically didn't work. There was no message saying that Shank had saved vs. spell, and after a few moments, there would be the sound that a spell makes when it wears off - even if Shank hadn't actually been put to sleep. I thought that maybe this was a bug resulting from the mod, so I uninstalled it and tried playing as a cleric of Helm. Although it seemed that the spell began to work more frequently when I did this, there were still times when I encountered the same behavior.

I know that the description for "Command" says that creatures with 6 or more HD are allowed a save against it, but is it normal for there to be no message saying that a save has been made, or for a sound to be made indicating that the spell has worn off even when it hadn't worked? Also, does Shank actually have 6 or more HD?

jackjack

Considering even my weakling Bard can drop him in 1–2 hits, I very much doubt he has 6HD. I don't have SCS installed, however, so I don't know if that changes this.

CaloNord

I'm not sure. SCS changes him to an Assassin, along with Carbos. Not sure if they amped up his stats or not.

SharGuidesMyHand

CaloNord said:

I'm not sure. SCS changes him to an Assassin, along with Carbos. Not sure if they amped up his stats or not.

I used EE keeper to check his stats, and it seems that he only has 4 HPs.

Also, he is already considered an assassin according to the keeper. I'm not all that familiar with SCS, but my understanding is that it didn't actually change him to an assassin - it adjusted his AI so that he would use the otherwise latent abilities that he should already have as an assassin.

Also, on another side-note, the keeper says he is actually a half-elf.

CaloNord

That is weird. At first I thought it could be glitch with the Cleric of Tyr kit but it uses the same pool of divine spells as everyone else does, does it not? I just tested it 6 times with the default cleric and it worked every time. (Don't have Tyr) What else could be causing it I wonder... @CrevsDaak‌ any ideas my good man?

CrevsDaak

Shank is a half-elf, and the game checks for levels & HP/Lvl to rate the HD of a creature. The thing is different... This is working correctly, Shank, as a Half-elf, should have 30% resistance against Charm/Sleep spells, and Command is one of those. My level 5, 30 HP Carbos fells to Command every time: Carbos is human, Shank is a Half-elf, so 30% of the times he should fall asleep, he resists.

CaloNord

Cheer's @CrevsDaak‌! Not rightly sure why the hell that didn't occur to me. *Blushing intensely* :P