Just a gentle reminder, nothing is off the table. If someone lists a game as their favorite CRPG, that's their opinion. If someone listed Zork as an RPG, that would be their opinion.
Lots of good stuff here and some that I've never tried or heard of. Great ideas guys. Thanks
Yipe was sort of amusing as well. You are an adventurer who basically goes on quests to kill things. But the weapons and armor all have silly names. You can wield, say, a letter opener or wear a set of hockey padding. And to regain health requires eating stuff like cheeseburgers. There is a Yipe 5 which is a mobile game (they never put out a Yipe 4, so it's Yipe, Yipe 2, Yipe 3 and now Yipe 5). Starting with Yipe 3, there are two main game quests- Find the King's Stamp Collection, and find the King's daughters. To do that, you have to fight monsters, collect gold and treasure, find shops that sell certain skills, upgrade your weapons and armor, and find hidden switches to open up new areas to explore.
I always preferred demon's souls to dark souls by a fairly large margin, in fact id say it was one of my all time favourite games. the world, atmosphere and lore just obliterates that of dark souls imo. Shame that it wasn't played by as many as its successor was.
I adore VTM: bloodlines. despite its failings its one of my all time favourite games
I like mass effect a lot too although I didn't think much of the third title
dragon age 3 could be good but im not buying what ive seen so far. They keep talking but they are yet to really prove the mechanics to me. Still it added race selection so thats something.
The first Knights of the Old Republic. Hands down my second favorite game of all time after BG2. Loved the story and plot twist, it really felt like Star Wars. I also loved the rules being based on the Star Wars RPG that was out at the time, which functioned like 3rd edition DnD.
dang... I was totally gonna say "Baldur's Gate TWO" and then follow up with IWD and PS:T
but other than that, two come to mind
1. Temple of Elemental Evil: simple story with some funny but not very developed characters. However, the engine was great and I think it is the best interpretation of pen and paper D&D style combat I have ever seen. I loved the turn based system and the spells. I liked how they legitimately incorporated the different casting methods, feats and skills into the game. Having dialogue skills is also great, and they used them quite a bit.
2. Chrono Trigger: This game is pure classic fun. I love the lightheartedness of the story, and how things became so epic yet remained silly. Who doesn't love a brave knight who happens to be frog? That guy had more gravitas than most video game characters! Pretty much pure fun. I know its not a cRPG but since I played it on an emulator during Organic Chemistry lectures back in college, I've only really known it as a computer game.
Jade Empire is another one I expected to show up here. Thanks for that @Blastback.
Lotta love for ToEE, and I agree it was a great engine. I so wish that they would get an EE kind of love. Although, the Co8 patch handled most of that. I guess what I would really love is if they did a sequel. THAT would be EPIC.
In my mind, Bioware died October 11, 2007, gaming's darkest day. Or rather, it would have been better had it died...
I've posted this elsewhere, but TES V: Skyrim is the only other RPG I've played which comes close to measuring up to BG. Where it is weaker to BG it makes up for it in being moddable to a fault, in such a fashion that it becomes easy to address those weaknesses.
I have good feelings for Dark Souls but the PVP focus it wears on its sleeve disappoints me; I'm much more of a lore and modding guy.
Fallout 3 was the first Bethesda game I really fell for; earlier forays into TES III: Morrowind ended in frustration (I was not ready, at that time, for weapon repair and Bethesda's style of modding).
Some day I will play Deus Ex, and its sequel, Human Revolution.
Knights of the Old Republic I and II were Bioware's last works, as far as I'm concerned; not their greatest, but great all the same.
TES IV: Oblivion was an okay game made excellent with mods.
Mass Effect: Taken as a whole series, it's excellent. The gameplay's a little unpolished in the first installment, but there's a lot of RPG guts to tinker with for the mechanically-minded. ME2 ramped up the gameplay, toned down the gear porn, but made the abilities you gain as you level up much more interesting. ME3 is the best balance of both. The narrative is truly great, and you'll find yourself really caring about these characters, and you might surprise yourself with who you end up caring about. I damn near cry during at least three scenes in ME3 every time I see them.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution: A lot of freedom to play how you want and discover solutions to problems. Each city hub you find yourself in is like one big exploration puzzle. I remember buying the super strength augment just to try and position dumpsters and crates in a particular area, and never looked back. If you're new to Deus Ex, I recommend the Director's Cut of the game. It's more expensive, but in the original version of the game, the boss fights were designed by a separate developer, and they can be punishingly difficult for certain playstyles. The DC version fixes this with updated boss fights. You still can't sneak past bosses, but you've got a lot more tools at your disposal for dealing with them as a hacker or stealth-focused character. This is another game with a strong narrative, where your supporting characters can get to you in unexpected ways.
Fallout: New Vegas: While not quite as deep in your ability to try different things to circumvent/crush/manipulate obstacles as Deus Ex, this game is huge enough that you'll find plenty to do and lots of unique ways to get into and out of trouble. The expansions for the game are really well-wrought, compact stories with their own fairly large maps to explore, so I also recommend those, as well. This one's less narrative-intense, but talking with the characters and getting a feel for the world and its politics, and what each faction is striving for can really ferment some strong opinions as to who is ultimately best for the Mojave Wasteland.
In my mind, Bioware died October 11, 2007, gaming's darkest day. Or rather, it would have been better had it died...
I've posted this elsewhere, but TES V: Skyrim is the only other RPG I've played which comes close to measuring up to BG. Where it is weaker to BG it makes up for it in being moddable to a fault, in such a fashion that it becomes easy to address those weaknesses.
I have good feelings for Dark Souls but the PVP focus it wears on its sleeve disappoints me; I'm much more of a lore and modding guy.
Fallout 3 was the first Bethesda game I really fell for; earlier forays into TES III: Morrowind ended in frustration (I was not ready, at that time, for weapon repair and Bethesda's style of modding).
Some day I will play Deus Ex, and its sequel, Human Revolution.
Knights of the Old Republic I and II were Bioware's last works, as far as I'm concerned; not their greatest, but great all the same.
TES IV: Oblivion was an okay game made excellent with mods.
Human Revolution is actually a prequel, one that I highly recommend! Even without playing the original Deus Ex games, it's a fun romp.
Can't imagine what you've got against Mass Effect or Dragon Age on Bioware's part, and both came out under the supposedly terrible merger's banner. They're both excellent franchises. Dragon Age: Inquisition has me salivating right now.
Can't imagine what you've got against Mass Effect or Dragon Age on Bioware's part, and both came out under the supposedly terrible merger's banner. They're both excellent franchises. Dragon Age: Inquisition has me salivating right now.
There shouldn't be any "Bad" suggestions here. Both Mass Effect and Dragon age are perfectly good choices here.
My personal opinion is that DA2 kind of lost the mission a bit (though I respect those who liked it and still stand by my "no bad choices" thing), but I am going to give DA3 at least a fair hearing before passing judgement. And I liked Mass Effect 2. I thought that ME1 had some issues, particularly as I hated the rover missions. I never played ME3 due to other priorities at the time.
As a side note to anyone who is interested, I recently found out that KOTOR is available for play on the Ipod. Not sure how good the translation is, but it is there if you are so inclined.
i just came here for suggestions.. i really disliked nwn 1, 2 and toee and was never a fan of the final fantasy games. i heard shadowrun is good though, i liked fallout 1 and 2, so should i check it out?
graphics and gameplay i suppose? for nwn specifically: the confusing camera angles, reaaally annoying incantations and i thought the plot lacked depth. toee: i quit after about an hour because it felt very dated and didn't really grab me. also, bugs.
i just started a game of iwd2 and promptly quit because the first two-three hours of gameplay are so, so, so tedious.
graphics and gameplay i suppose? for nwn specifically: the confusing camera angles, reaaally annoying incantations and i thought the plot lacked depth. toee: i quit after about an hour because it felt very dated and didn't really grab me. also, bugs.
i just started a game of iwd2 and promptly quit because the first two-three hours of gameplay are so, so, so tedious.
So, you enjoyed Fallout 2, but the prologue of IWD2 was tedious? Those are some heavy duty rose-tinted glasses you're wearing.
I will try to contribute with some obscure and less-known or less-mentioned names, that I enjoyed: Albion - my all-time favourite oldschool RPG game, even though I played it first almost 20 years back and beat it only twice. Immensely huge world, great story and (for that time) beautiful graphics. Check it out, if you can find it. Quest for Glory II, III and IV - more and adventure fairy tale with RPG bits, but still magical. Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines - let yourself succumb to the darkness...and get the unofficial patch that fixes lots of problems and errors. Realms of Arkania series - (especially RoA3:Shadows over Riva). Often overlooked German RPG, with complex system, which has to be learned first to get the full advantage of it. I played all of them, but played the hell out of RoA3 which is still one of the best RPGs I have ever seen. The original games can be bought for few euro/dollars on Steam and someone has re-mastered the first game and I hear it's good. I have it, but I haven't tried it yet. Wizardry VIII - newest instalment of the series of Wizardry 7 fame. Still very playable and can get very (VERY) hard.
... I really tried to play and like ToEEE several times...never got to the "liking" part. But hearing about the modpack, I might give it another try.
@simples - Hmm.... that's a a tough one. Throwing out NWN1/2 because of graphics, I can kind of see. Both got really knocked for not being as pretty as they could be. Plus camera angles were always a problem. For what it is worth, TonyK (I am pretty sure it was him) put out a mod that fixed the camera angle thing and the AI thing for the most part. I've spent many MANY hours on persistent worlds in NWN2 with TonyK's mods and had loads of fun. Still, if that isn't your thing...
I would however recommend ToEE again. This time pick up the Co8 community patch. They have fixed most of the bugs in the game and it is eminently more playable. I am not sure why you think the graphics are dated, yet still are HERE. I think that, give or take, the graphics in ToEE are superior to BG, and the 'Actual' turn based combat is far superior. Admittedly the story isn't 'All that', but it's a trade off. Quite frankly, if someone re-did Baldur's Gate into the ToEE engine, I think I would have a new favorite game.
Are you more into the isometric top down sort of game play (ala BG, IWD, Fallout)? or are you open to more 3D type games? Granted there's a trade off there, but there are still some good games. Morrowwind is EXCELLENT in my view. Really open world and the sky's the limit as to what you can do.
I've recently played Dark Souls, which isn't your traditional 'Role play' game, but is one of the most intriguing games I've played in years. There are layers upon layers to peel back and a whole world to explore.
Also maybe consider Jade empire or Knights of the Old Republic (not the MMO)?
the problem with 3D graphics (for me), is that it often seems like there's so much going on at the same time (spell effects, movement, shadows, etc) that it gets confusing.
always wanted to try jade empire though, really liked the concept!
the problem with 3D graphics (for me), is that it often seems like there's so much going on at the same time (spell effects, movement, shadows, etc) that it gets confusing.
always wanted to try jade empire though, really liked the concept!
I feel your pain with screen clutter issues. I can't stand WildStar and DC Universe Online, which are otherwise passable games, because so much rapidly moving crap is happening on-screen. Even the great City of Heroes could be guilty of this in large parties of players or otherwise high difficulty content. Armies of mooks flooding the screen while the party spams AoE attacks. The horror.
That kind of on screen craziness is more or less forgivable in an MMO or other multiple user multiplayer game. Not so much in more intimate settings where you don't see "armies of mooks". Shame that some games suffer from it anyway.
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Lots of good stuff here and some that I've never tried or heard of. Great ideas guys. Thanks
http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=17631&tab=review
http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=17632&tab=review
http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=17634&tab=review
Here's a video of Yipe 5 gameplay:
I adore VTM: bloodlines. despite its failings its one of my all time favourite games
I like mass effect a lot too although I didn't think much of the third title
dragon age 3 could be good but im not buying what ive seen so far. They keep talking but they are yet to really prove the mechanics to me. Still it added race selection so thats something.
Jade Empire was also great.
but other than that, two come to mind
1. Temple of Elemental Evil: simple story with some funny but not very developed characters. However, the engine was great and I think it is the best interpretation of pen and paper D&D style combat I have ever seen. I loved the turn based system and the spells. I liked how they legitimately incorporated the different casting methods, feats and skills into the game. Having dialogue skills is also great, and they used them quite a bit.
2. Chrono Trigger: This game is pure classic fun. I love the lightheartedness of the story, and how things became so epic yet remained silly. Who doesn't love a brave knight who happens to be frog? That guy had more gravitas than most video game characters! Pretty much pure fun. I know its not a cRPG but since I played it on an emulator during Organic Chemistry lectures back in college, I've only really known it as a computer game.
Lotta love for ToEE, and I agree it was a great engine. I so wish that they would get an EE kind of love. Although, the Co8 patch handled most of that. I guess what I would really love is if they did a sequel. THAT would be EPIC.
I've posted this elsewhere, but TES V: Skyrim is the only other RPG I've played which comes close to measuring up to BG. Where it is weaker to BG it makes up for it in being moddable to a fault, in such a fashion that it becomes easy to address those weaknesses.
I have good feelings for Dark Souls but the PVP focus it wears on its sleeve disappoints me; I'm much more of a lore and modding guy.
Fallout 3 was the first Bethesda game I really fell for; earlier forays into TES III: Morrowind ended in frustration (I was not ready, at that time, for weapon repair and Bethesda's style of modding).
Some day I will play Deus Ex, and its sequel, Human Revolution.
Knights of the Old Republic I and II were Bioware's last works, as far as I'm concerned; not their greatest, but great all the same.
TES IV: Oblivion was an okay game made excellent with mods.
Mass Effect: Taken as a whole series, it's excellent. The gameplay's a little unpolished in the first installment, but there's a lot of RPG guts to tinker with for the mechanically-minded. ME2 ramped up the gameplay, toned down the gear porn, but made the abilities you gain as you level up much more interesting. ME3 is the best balance of both. The narrative is truly great, and you'll find yourself really caring about these characters, and you might surprise yourself with who you end up caring about. I damn near cry during at least three scenes in ME3 every time I see them.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution: A lot of freedom to play how you want and discover solutions to problems. Each city hub you find yourself in is like one big exploration puzzle. I remember buying the super strength augment just to try and position dumpsters and crates in a particular area, and never looked back. If you're new to Deus Ex, I recommend the Director's Cut of the game. It's more expensive, but in the original version of the game, the boss fights were designed by a separate developer, and they can be punishingly difficult for certain playstyles. The DC version fixes this with updated boss fights. You still can't sneak past bosses, but you've got a lot more tools at your disposal for dealing with them as a hacker or stealth-focused character. This is another game with a strong narrative, where your supporting characters can get to you in unexpected ways.
Fallout: New Vegas: While not quite as deep in your ability to try different things to circumvent/crush/manipulate obstacles as Deus Ex, this game is huge enough that you'll find plenty to do and lots of unique ways to get into and out of trouble. The expansions for the game are really well-wrought, compact stories with their own fairly large maps to explore, so I also recommend those, as well. This one's less narrative-intense, but talking with the characters and getting a feel for the world and its politics, and what each faction is striving for can really ferment some strong opinions as to who is ultimately best for the Mojave Wasteland. Human Revolution is actually a prequel, one that I highly recommend! Even without playing the original Deus Ex games, it's a fun romp.
Can't imagine what you've got against Mass Effect or Dragon Age on Bioware's part, and both came out under the supposedly terrible merger's banner. They're both excellent franchises. Dragon Age: Inquisition has me salivating right now.
http://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun/b/553298787
My personal opinion is that DA2 kind of lost the mission a bit (though I respect those who liked it and still stand by my "no bad choices" thing), but I am going to give DA3 at least a fair hearing before passing judgement. And I liked Mass Effect 2. I thought that ME1 had some issues, particularly as I hated the rover missions. I never played ME3 due to other priorities at the time.
As a side note to anyone who is interested, I recently found out that KOTOR is available for play on the Ipod. Not sure how good the translation is, but it is there if you are so inclined.
i just started a game of iwd2 and promptly quit because the first two-three hours of gameplay are so, so, so tedious.
glasses you're wearing.
Albion - my all-time favourite oldschool RPG game, even though I played it first almost 20 years back and beat it only twice. Immensely huge world, great story and (for that time) beautiful graphics. Check it out, if you can find it.
Quest for Glory II, III and IV - more and adventure fairy tale with RPG bits, but still magical.
Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines - let yourself succumb to the darkness...and get the unofficial patch that fixes lots of problems and errors.
Realms of Arkania series - (especially RoA3:Shadows over Riva). Often overlooked German RPG, with complex system, which has to be learned first to get the full advantage of it. I played all of them, but played the hell out of RoA3 which is still one of the best RPGs I have ever seen. The original games can be bought for few euro/dollars on Steam and someone has re-mastered the first game and I hear it's good. I have it, but I haven't tried it yet.
Wizardry VIII - newest instalment of the series of Wizardry 7 fame. Still very playable and can get very (VERY) hard.
... I really tried to play and like ToEEE several times...never got to the "liking" part. But hearing about the modpack, I might give it another try.
I would however recommend ToEE again. This time pick up the Co8 community patch. They have fixed most of the bugs in the game and it is eminently more playable. I am not sure why you think the graphics are dated, yet still are HERE. I think that, give or take, the graphics in ToEE are superior to BG, and the 'Actual' turn based combat is far superior. Admittedly the story isn't 'All that', but it's a trade off. Quite frankly, if someone re-did Baldur's Gate into the ToEE engine, I think I would have a new favorite game.
Are you more into the isometric top down sort of game play (ala BG, IWD, Fallout)? or are you open to more 3D type games? Granted there's a trade off there, but there are still some good games. Morrowwind is EXCELLENT in my view. Really open world and the sky's the limit as to what you can do.
I've recently played Dark Souls, which isn't your traditional 'Role play' game, but is one of the most intriguing games I've played in years. There are layers upon layers to peel back and a whole world to explore.
Also maybe consider Jade empire or Knights of the Old Republic (not the MMO)?
always wanted to try jade empire though, really liked the concept!
Fallout
Diablo
Witcher
Wasteland 2
Mass effect
Knights of the old republic
Dragon realms* (before they sold out)
*props if you knew what this was/is
@Cr4zyJ - I have heard of Dragon Realms, but admit that I have never played.