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Is 90+ Rolls harder in IWDEE than BGEE?

BoxrainmanBoxrainman Member Posts: 17
edited November 2014 in Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition
Hi there - did anyone notice if its alot harder to roll 90+ in IWD than in BGEE. I usually make all my chars90+ and the longest it took in BGEE was a druid that took 3-4 hours to get past 90 pts. I have been rolling a hafling swashbuckler all day and yesterday with no luck. Pure coincidence and bad luck?
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  • BelanosBelanos Member Posts: 968
    meagloth said:

    others are harder to roll like sorcerers, which have no prime stat(though they may have min. 9 cha, not sure) and fighters.

    15 Charisma actually. Same with Bards.

  • AndrewKellyAndrewKelly Member Posts: 16
    Quite the opposite, I think.

    I must've restarted BG:EE a dozen times in the last month and rolled tons of characters. I don't think I ever saw over 94, and it took a lot longer.

    I've only had IWD:EE since release. I've rerolled about four parties since (going for 90+ on all characters) and it seems to take a lot less time.

    Additionally, I just rolled a 99 on a cleric/ranger. I think that's the max.
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,857
    Belanos said:

    meagloth said:

    others are harder to roll like sorcerers, which have no prime stat(though they may have min. 9 cha, not sure) and fighters.

    15 Charisma actually. Same with Bards.

    O RLY?
  • SedSed Member Posts: 790
    I've had a lot more luck in IWD than in the BG games with the rolls ^^
  • BoxrainmanBoxrainman Member Posts: 17
    AndrewKelly said:



    Additionally, I just rolled a 99 on a cleric/ranger. I think that's the max.

    Ok thats Crazy.. My personal best was a Archer in BGEE with str 1800 and 95 pts. 99 might be max, theoretically max would be 108?

  • JarrakulJarrakul Member Posts: 2,029
    I'm fairly sure max is actually 108, simply because I can't imagine the original devs felt the need to cap it. I have never, in the tens of thousands of rolls I've seen in my time, seen anything above 100. Nor do I expect to. Running the numbers is actually annoyingly difficult, but I've come close enough to say I never expect to see the mythical 108 if I play these games until the day I die.
  • Aozgolo108Aozgolo108 Member Posts: 79
    As an aside, someone made an auto-roller program for BGEE and BG2EE, does anyone know if someone is working on one for IWDEE? It would be way more useful for this game since you're rolling for 6 characters instead of one.
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  • JarrakulJarrakul Member Posts: 2,029
    I just made a program to simulate rolls using the game's system, but I lack the expertise to integrate it with the game itself. Sorry.

    That said, I just had it simulate rolling stats for an elven ranger (one of the highest possible minimum sets) one million times. The highest it got was 101. Now, consider that, if you roll once per second (a reasonable minimum if you want to avoid accidentally skipping a good roll), it'd take about 11.5 days of continuous rolling to make a million rolls. So, you know, not particularly feasible.

    More later, when I leave my computer on overnight and see what happens when I add a couple 0s to that number.
  • kcwisekcwise Member Posts: 2,287
    Aozgolo108 said:

    As an aside, someone made an auto-roller program for BGEE and BG2EE, does anyone know if someone is working on one for IWDEE? It would be way more useful for this game since you're rolling for 6 characters instead of one.

    Yep, check it out:

    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/10937/utility-ee-autoroller#latest
  • BelanosBelanos Member Posts: 968
    meagloth said:



    @Belanos‌image

    Then it's been changed with IWD as I just recently rolled up a Sorcerer and I couldn't lower Charisma below 15. Though it was a Dragon Disciple, so maybe that had something to do with it.

  • madmaximusmadmaximus Member Posts: 140
    what is the point of an auto-roller, for all that you might as well just cheat.
  • AnaximanderAnaximander Member Posts: 191
    I rolled a human beserker with 94 points and it didn't take that long, might have been lucky but she'll be a nice druid soon I think :D Anything mid eighties is usually good enough even for power gaming except for a few specific things, certain dual class things maybe.
  • proccoprocco Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 915
    I was actually thinking, before even reading this post, that IWDEE seemed a little more generous with the rolls. I'm pretty sure it's all in the mind though. I'd bet if someone did a large number of rolls for the same character in each of the three EE's the number spreads would be pretty identical. I ain't got time for that, though. ;)
  • CoM_SolaufeinCoM_Solaufein Member Posts: 2,606
    Ha speaking of rolls look what my paladin undead hunter got. It took me a lot of rerolls to get this.
  • JarrakulJarrakul Member Posts: 2,029
    Belanos said:



    Then it's been changed with IWD as I just recently rolled up a Sorcerer and I couldn't lower Charisma below 15. Though it was a Dragon Disciple, so maybe that had something to do with it.

    Just tested all 3 Enhanced Editions and, where applicable, vanilla BG2. The 15 Charisma minimum is Dragon Disciple only. Unkitted sorcerers have a 9 minimum.
  • Ancalagon44Ancalagon44 Member Posts: 252
    kcwise said:

    Aozgolo108 said:

    As an aside, someone made an auto-roller program for BGEE and BG2EE, does anyone know if someone is working on one for IWDEE? It would be way more useful for this game since you're rolling for 6 characters instead of one.

    Yep, check it out:

    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/10937/utility-ee-autoroller#latest
    If you're going to do that, just save yourself a lot of time and Dale Keeper your stats. Much quicker and it amounts to the same thing.
  • scriverscriver Member Posts: 2,072
    Or you can just let people do whatever makes them feel the least cheatiest. There's no particular difference between "why use roller, just edit the stats" and "why reroll, just edit the stats", it all comes down to what you personally is comfortable with.
  • BelanosBelanos Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2014
    Jarrakul said:


    Just tested all 3 Enhanced Editions and, where applicable, vanilla BG2. The 15 Charisma minimum is Dragon Disciple only. Unkitted sorcerers have a 9 minimum.

    That would explain it then. I've never rolled up a Sorcerer in these games before and I decided to go with a Dragon Disciple. It seems to be a pretty powerful kit, especially with all those AC bonuses. Good to have with a generally squishy caster class. You hardly need to have any buff spells for it, pretty much just offensive.

  • BoxrainmanBoxrainman Member Posts: 17
    edited November 2014
    Since my initial question is answered, ty all, and the thread is totally derailed im going to post my best char too :) I rolled a 94 pts Blackguard and soloed the entire BGEE +most of BGEE2 including watchers keep. It allowed me to use every Stat Tome, Lum the Mad machine combo and so on one char. It resulted in this :)

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    IWD came out so I didnt reach a point yet I couldnt beat. Draconis springs to mind though :)
  • LeokostaLeokosta Member Posts: 73
    CTRL+SHIFT+8
  • ArdentArdent Member Posts: 22
    108 must be the maximum, because in AD&D you roll every attribute with 3D6. If you'd roll sixes on all dice for all six attributes, you'd have 108 ability points.
  • FelspawnFelspawn Member Posts: 161
    Boxrainman said:

    Since my initial question is answered, ty all, and the thread is totally derailed im going to post my best char too :) I rolled a 94 pts Blackguard and soloed the entire BGEE +most of BGEE2 including watchers keep. It allowed me to use every Stat Tome, Lum the Mad machine combo and so on one char. It resulted in this :)

    image


    IWD came out so I didnt reach a point yet I couldnt beat. Draconis springs to mind though :)

    Out of Curiosity does the 20 wisdom really do anything for a Paladin/Blackguard?
  • BoxrainmanBoxrainman Member Posts: 17
    Nope nothing I noticed, but since i used every tome and stat boost on one char it got up there. They add up since i exported the char from BGee final save into BG2ee and continued to use them on this one char. The original char was like 94pts only.
  • limaxlimax Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2014
    I just rolled an 88 point FMT and a 90 point Kensai both with 18/00 strength after only like 5 minutes rolling each, which is kind of insane, so signs point to you just having a string of bad luck.
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    My best roll was 103 with a Human Cavalier in BG:EE Now I usually just Ctrl+8 and reduce stuff down to 103.
  • EndarireEndarire Member Posts: 1,519
    A Dragon Disciple has that 15 CHA minimum.
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