Random questions I have regarding modding

elminster

Rather than making a new thread every time I have a modding related question I figure I'll just repurpose this one.

At the moment it concerns an issue I'm having with getting quests to appear in the journal (see below).

CrevsDaak

It's not via a script what you want ;p
You'd prefer adding an actor to the .are and editing the flags in the appareance time with WeiDU.
http://www.weidu.org/~thebigg/README-WeiDU.html#htoc51
http://gibberlings3.net/iesdp/file_formats/ie_formats/are_v1.htm#formAREAV1_0_Actor


No idea about those soldiers... Look at thier destination fields [x.y] on their actor entry in the .are and see if it's that.

elminster

Thanks

CoM_Solaufein

You can have a creature assigned to an area and use the area file that lets it know what time.they should be there. Also can be done with a script file. I'm not on my computer so I really can't give you the specifics on it

elminster

So would it look something like this then in my Tp2 file?

COPY_EXISTING ~ar3300.are~ ~override~
  LPF fj_are_structure
    INT_VAR
    fj_loc_x          = 1442
    fj_loc_y          = 955
    fj_dest_x         = 1442
    fj_dest_y         = 955
    fj_schedule       = 0b100000000000000011111111 // 20:30 - 5:30
    fj_animation      = 0x6310 //thief female human
    fj_orientation    = 15     //SSE
    STR_VAR
    fj_structure_type = actor
    fj_name           = Bethi
    fj_cre_resref     = k9bethi
  END

Edit: Looks like I've gotten the timing to work to a degree. I still need to figure out its specifics but so far so good.

CrevsDaak

yeah, that should work OK.

elminster

@CrevsDaak So what would I need to type in if I just wanted to outright remove a creature from an area file.

For instance AR3323 (in BGEE) has two townsfolk in it that I'd like to remove.

CrevsDaak

@elminster‌ something like this moves the creature. I think you should use DELETE_BYTES and adjust the actors count and offset.

COPY_EXISTING ar400.are override
  PATCH_IF SOURCE_SIZE > 0x139 BEGIN
    READ_LONG 0x54 actors_offset
    READ_SHORT 0x58 actors_count
    SET found = 0
    FOR (j = 0; j < actors_count && found > 1; ++j) BEGIN
      READ_SHORT 0x20 current_x
      READ_SHORT 0x22 current_y
      PATCH_IF (current_x > 1350 && current_x < 1450 && current_y > 600 && current_y < 700) BEGIN
        WRITE_SHORT 0x20 1044 
        WRITE_SHORT 0x22 694
        WRITE_SHORT 0x24 1044
        WRITE_SHORT 0x26 694
        SET found = 1
      END
    END
  END ELSE BEGIN
    PATCH_FAIL ~%SOURCE_FILE% is corrupt: below minimum length.~
  END
BUT_ONLY

Also, you could just use a script like this:

IF
		OR(2)
				Exists("commoner1")
				Exists("commoner2")
		!Global("checkcheck","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
		RESPONSE #100
				ActionOverride("commoner1",DestroySelf())
				ActionOverride("commoner2",DestroySelf())
END

and append it to the area's script.

elminster

Thanks

elminster

@CrevsDaak (or anyone who has experience with dialogue) another question.

I added in

AddJournalEntry(@105,QUEST)

for one of my dialogues. Everything installs fine and when I go through the dialogue I get a message saying that the journal has been updated, but when I look in the journal there isn't anything in it.

IF ~~ THEN
BEGIN k9gooddarren2
SAY ~I've heard he spends his days and nights in either the Feldpost Inn, the Burning Wizard, or the Red Sheaf. If you can't find him in one of these places then he likely will be found in one of the other two. Now, if you excuse me I must get back to other pressing matters. Please return to me after you have talked to him.~ IF ~~ THEN DO ~AddJournalEntry(@105,QUEST)~ EXIT
END

Any thoughts about what I might be missing?

CrevsDaak

@elminster you're not patching the bgee.sql--which rules the journal entries--so they aren't showing up.
Check in this thread's OP http://gibberlings3.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=26671 (you'll have to scroll down a bit) where it says Journal Entries or something like that.

elminster

Thanks

elminster

Yea I'm trying to use an area script and have it unlock a door at a certain chapter

So far I have

IF
Global("Chapter","GLOBAL",3) Global("k9unlocked", "GLOBAL", 0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("k9unlocked", "GLOBAL", 1)
Unlock("Door3323")
OpenDoor("Door3323")
END

Weidu has no problems with this but when it comes time to see if the door is unlocked it isn't (even if I'm in chapter 3).

CrevsDaak

May I ask what are you developing here ?
First, does the door require a key? If not, make so, and use an invisible creature with the key to open the door.
And second, you could use the check:

0x4076 OpenState(O:Object*,I:Open*BOOLEAN)

(Returns true only if the open state of the specified door matches the state specified in the 2nd parameter).
^ shamelessly stole form the IESDP

elminster

Edit: I think I'm just going to take a different approach. Nothing I do seems to want to work and its such a trivial aspect of the mod that I don't want to spend any more time on it haha.

elminster

@CrevsDaak hey I think I asked you this earlier but how do you edit map notes?

(I know the command ADD_MAP_NOTE but obviously that is just adding one)

Edit: I found this online

RemoveMapNote(P:Position*,I:STRREF*)

Will this still work in BGEE?

elminster

Nevermind. I figured it out

elminster

Weird. So I'm trying to remove two map notes using that command. I'm able to remove one, but the second one doesn't want to disappear.


This is what I have for the BAF file I'm using for it

//Nashkel Inn name

IF
GlobalGT("Chapter","GLOBAL",0) Global("k9Nashkel1", "GLOBAL", 0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("k9Nashkel1", "GLOBAL", 1)

RemoveMapNote ([1300.564], 16266)




END

//Nashkel Store Name

IF
GlobalGT("Chapter","GLOBAL",0) Global("k92", "GLOBAL", 0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("k92", "GLOBAL", 1)

RemoveMapNote ([1684.820], 16267)


END



The top one (for the nashkel inn) works but the bottom one doesn't.

argent77

The map note coordinates in your scripts are slightly off and the actually used strref of the "Nashkel Inn" note is different (I'm surprised it still worked). Try the following code snippet instead:
//Nashkel Inn name IF GlobalGT("Chapter","GLOBAL",0) Global("k9Nashkel1", "GLOBAL", 0) THEN RESPONSE #100 SetGlobal("k9Nashkel1", "GLOBAL", 1) RemoveMapNote([1330.652], 16268) END //Nashkel Store Name IF GlobalGT("Chapter","GLOBAL",0) Global("k92", "GLOBAL", 0) THEN RESPONSE #100 SetGlobal("k92", "GLOBAL", 1) RemoveMapNote([1655.867], 16267) END
Btw, the script actions AddMapNote/RemoveMapNote were very unreliable in the original BG2. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it added new strings to existing map markers instead of replacing them (in the case of AddMapNote()) and sometimes it did nothing at all. I don't know if this issue has been fixed in the Enhanced Editions of the games.

elminster

I can't test it at the moment but thanks for the help!

elminster

Yea with that it basically just adds the string to the existing string for the top one. So in this case it now says

Nashkel Inn
Northern Light Inn


when I scroll over it when I just want it to say Northern Light Inn.

Whereas with the bottom one it removes the old map marker and replaces it with a new one with the correct text.

So looks like the issue you mentioned hasn't been fixed.

elminster

Anyways, another thing I'd like to be able to do is change the probability of snowfall in a number of areas. Any ideas on how I would go about programming that? (using weidu)

elminster

Also I'm trying to create an STO file for a temple. However, for whatever reason after Weidu compiles it it changes the "type" of the store from 3 (temple) to some crazy high number. How do you set the store type in Weidu?

Edit: Nevermind I figured out what I was doing wrong based on this

http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=11555.0

elminster

Right now I have

APPEND INNKN2


IF WEIGHT #1 ~ InParty("VICONIA") InParty("BAELOTH")~ THEN BEGIN k9wizard
SAY @2050

++ @2051 DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END

END

Yet when I talk to the person I need to talk to this dialogue is ignored (even when I have both Baeloth and Viconia in my party). Any ideas why?

Isaya

elminster said:

Anyways, another thing I'd like to be able to do is change the probability of snowfall in a number of areas. Any ideas on how I would go about programming that? (using weidu)

Probability is a offset 0x4C in the ARE structure.
So something like this should update it:
COPY_EXISTING ~MYAREA.ARE~ ~override/MYAREE.ARE~ WRITE_SHORT 0x4C value

elminster said:

Yet when I talk to the person I need to talk to this dialogue is ignored (even when I have both Baeloth and Viconia in my party). Any ideas why?

State weight in game dialog start at 0, which is the higher priority, according to the WeiDU readme. Since that weight might already be used in the dialog, and prior to anything you append (in case of equal weight, the first to appear in file will trigger), you are allowed to specify negative number for weight when you append something.
See example in chapter 8.7 state WEIGHTs of the WeiDU readme for explanations and example:
APPEND BJAHEIR IF WEIGHT #-999 ~MyCondition()~ THEN BEGIN mystate SAY ~My Stuff~ END END

elminster

Yea I had thought about it being 1 instead of 0 (and did change it), but even when I changed it to zero that didn't change anything.

This is the dialog file that I am appending. There isn't really much to it.

// creator : weidu (version 23600)
// argument : INNKN2.DLG
// game : .
// source : ./DATA/DIALOG.BIF
// dialog : lang\en_us/dialog.tlk
// dialogF : (none)

BEGIN ~INNKN2~

IF ~ True()
~ THEN BEGIN 0 // from:
SAY #3586 /* ~Ya should do yerself a favor and stay indoors tonight. I've heard of all sorts of weird things happening at night.~ */
IF ~~ THEN REPLY #15275 /* ~What can you give me today?~ */ DO ~StartStore("Inn4801",LastTalkedToBy(Myself))
~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY #15276 /* ~I don't need anything at the moment.~ */ EXIT
END

IF ~ False()
~ THEN BEGIN 1 // from:
SAY #3587 /* ~Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? Well, neither have I.~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END

elminster

This is a copy of what I am appending it with


EXTEND_TOP INNKN2 0
+~CheckStatGT(Player1,14,CHR)~+ @2045 GOTO 3
+~CheckStatLT(Player1,15,CHR)~+ @2045 GOTO 4
END


APPEND INNKN2


IF WEIGHT #0 ~~ THEN BEGIN k9wizard
SAY @2044

+~InParty("VICONIA") InParty("BAELOTH") Kit(player1,DARK_MOON)~+ #15275 GOTO k9ViconiaBaelothMonk
+~InParty("VICONIA") InParty("BAELOTH") !Kit(player1,DARK_MOON)~+ #15275 GOTO k9ViconiaBaeloth
+~InParty("VICONIA") !InParty("BAELOTH") Kit(player1,DARK_MOON)~+ #15275 GOTO k9ViconiaMonk
+~InParty("VICONIA") !InParty("BAELOTH") !Kit(player1,DARK_MOON)~+ #15275 GOTO k9Viconia
+~!InParty("VICONIA") InParty("BAELOTH") Kit(player1,DARK_MOON)~+ #15275 GOTO k9BaelothMonk
+~!InParty("VICONIA") InParty("BAELOTH") !Kit(player1,DARK_MOON)~+ #15275 GOTO k9Baeloth
+~!InParty("VICONIA") !InParty("BAELOTH") Kit(player1,DARK_MOON)~+ #15275 GOTO k9Monk
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN k9ViconiaBaelothMonk
SAY @2051 IF ~~ THEN DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN k9ViconiaBaeloth
SAY @2050 IF ~~ THEN DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN k9ViconiaMonk
SAY @2052 IF ~~ THEN DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN k9Viconia
SAY @2049 IF ~~ THEN DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN k9BaelothMonk
SAY @2053 IF ~~ THEN DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN k9Baeloth
SAY @2049 IF ~~ THEN DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN k9Monk
SAY @2048 IF ~~ THEN DO ~ Enemy()~ EXIT
END


IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 3
SAY @2047
++ #15275 /* ~What can you give me today?~ */ DO ~StartStore("Inn4801",LastTalkedToBy(Myself))
~ EXIT
++ #15276 /* ~I don't need anything at the moment.~ */ EXIT
END

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 4
SAY @2046
++ #15275 /* ~What can you give me today?~ */ DO ~StartStore("Inn4801",LastTalkedToBy(Myself))
~ EXIT
++ #15276 /* ~I don't need anything at the moment.~ */ EXIT
END

END

Somehow the weight must be related to the issue because when I tried basically just replacing the file with my own (but without any weight and after making some adjustments) and it had no issues.

Isaya

As the WeiDU readme explains, state weight are implicit starting at 0 for the very first state in the dialog. So you IF ~true~, that will always be a candidate because of true, has state weight equal to 0. The readme also tells that, In case of equal weight with several states with active trigger, the first state to appear in the file will be used.
If you append another state with weight 0 later in the file, it will always be behind the very first state in terms of priority. As I wrote, use a negative weight in your append if you want it to trigger.

elminster

Yea I tried making the weight #-99 (I also tried #-1 at first) and its still not working. They show up in the dialog file in Near Infinity they just don't happen when they should be happening.

elminster

Ahh...I figured it out. I didn't also have True() there. Anyways thanks for your help @argent77 and @Isaya this was also stopping me from getting other mods from working

elminster

I'm trying to program a quest to be considered solved. How do I go about doing that? I'm doing this on BGEE and I've been using the new ADD_JOURNAL system.

The problem I think is that I'm trying to use more than one SOLVED_JOURNAL in the same block. Its only recognizing the last one though.

What I have for it is this.

IF ~~ THEN
BEGIN k9militiathings3
SAY ~Did ye now? Well much appreciated. I've not got much myself but you deserve a reward all the same. Its not much but take it.~ IF ~~ THEN DO
~SetGlobal("k9pints", "GLOBAL",3)
AddexperienceParty(2000)
EraseJournalEntry(@110)
EraseJournalEntry(@111)
EraseJournalEntry(@112)
EraseJournalEntry(@113)
EraseJournalEntry(@114)
EraseJournalEntry(@115)
EraseJournalEntry(@116)
EraseJournalEntry(@117)
EraseJournalEntry(@118)
EraseJournalEntry(@119)
EraseJournalEntry(@120)
EraseJournalEntry(@121)
EraseJournalEntry(@122)
EraseJournalEntry(@123)
EraseJournalEntry(@124)
EraseJournalEntry(@125)
EraseJournalEntry(@126)
EraseJournalEntry(@127)
EraseJournalEntry(@128)
EraseJournalEntry(@129)
EraseJournalEntry(@130)
EraseJournalEntry(@131)
EraseJournalEntry(@132)
EraseJournalEntry(@133)~

SOLVED_JOURNAL @107 SOLVED_JOURNAL @1071 SOLVED_JOURNAL @1072 SOLVED_JOURNAL @1073 EXIT
END