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Harper pin rejection

brynbryn Member Posts: 36
edited January 2015 in General Discussion (Spoiler Warning!)
Ok so my issue is with a butt hurt Jaheira after her ejection from the party. This was done after her completed quest line, not in a relationship, and now the proud recipient of a coveted harper pin. She complains about falling out with old allies (who were dicks anyway) and not being able to return to the harper hold. I thought she was being a little dramatic as she is now a favoured harper because of CHARNAME, free to go off and do what she wants. Instead she storms off, give CHARNAME back the locket (ok I can see the logic in that), and her harper pin?!?, thats yours love, you earned it! Not to be seen again, not even for a quick pint, and a catch up, or even to do a bit more adventuring etc. I know I'm looking into this too much but giving back the pin silly, It'd be good if she found you later and demanded the pin back as she made a rash decision.
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  • lunarlunar Member Posts: 3,460
    edited January 2015
    No body else can use the pin, correct? It is actually a very nice item to have, IIRC with electric resistance and save bonus vs all spells. But no one else can use it, so...I think it is coded as 'quest item=not sellable' this prevents it from destruction by disintegrate/frozen death, makes it unsellable to all merchants, and when an npc leaves he/she gives all such 'quest' items (generally keys, scrolls, wardstones etc) to pc to prevent game from halting.
  • brynbryn Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2015
    +5 saves against spells no less! and yes wearable only by Jaheira. I'm just looking at it from the role playing side of things. Perhaps it could become an un-removable item? Obviously people would have issues with this but no doubt it'd be very precious to her
  • kcwisekcwise Member Posts: 2,287
    I agree with @lunar , but from an RP perspective perhaps Jaheira feels she hasn't earned the pin. After following the Bhaalspawn she has had to kill former allies and challenge her belief in what maintaining "the balance" means. She has also been forced to question whether the Harpers are really the force for stability she had once thought. Maybe she just wanted to ditch it all and start over, get her head straight. If she kept the pin she'd only think about how she attained it in the first place, and again question whether or not she'd made the right decision.

    I'm not sure what her problem is though, all she has to do it blame it on the omnipresent authority figure controlling her every movement!
  • bob_vengbob_veng Member Posts: 2,308
    @bryn
    it's an ok observation but it's an extremely minor detail. what if you booted jaheira while the pin was in your inventory and not on her? should she then demand to have it? i'm afraid this can't be reasonably improved.
  • brynbryn Member Posts: 36
    God is in the detail @bob_veng‌ Yes she should in answer to your Q, but she wouldn't have to if it became a permanent equipped item, surely it is one of the best in terms of amulets.

    Jaheira is only pixels but from an immersion point of view that little detail would be awesome. That is what is so special about BG series, so much depth and npc personality
  • bob_vengbob_veng Member Posts: 2,308
    edited January 2015
    i don't like the idea of locking it to the slot when there are other situationally useful amulets she can equip.

    if it's not to be a permanently equipped item, the solution of her always keeping it via dialogue is probably doable but seems too elaborate for a microscopic gain in flavor.

    but it doesn't have to be an unsellable quest item, it should probably be changed to a normal item.

    ideally, it would be an unsellable non-quest item that doesn't get transferred from her to you upon parting.
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