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Geralt of Rivia/The Witcher's D&D style class and stats

ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
What do you think Geralt's stats would be in D&D terms?

I think he's a combination of Ranger, Fighter and Sorcerer.

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  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    Maybe a Stalker Ranger in 2e? Monster hunter with good fighting capabilities and some mage spells?
    As for stats I'll need to think about that more.
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    I prefer 3rd edition but 2nd is good too.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    I don't think there is a real appropriate class for Geralt in D&D/AD&D. He isn't really *human* in the sense of stats, anyhow. Most witchers are mutated humans, and Geralt is even more mutated than that. That's why he has white hair and yellow/gold eyes. (and at least according to the games, cat-like pupils (opening Cut-scene from the first game).

    Ciri, according to the novels, is a source. Which is sort of like a sorcerer, but with a more elemental connection to magic than Mages like Yennefer.

    From the wikipedia article on him: In Sapkowski's books, witchers are monster-hunters who receive special training and have their bodies modified at an early age to provide them with supernatural abilities so they can kill extremely dangerous monsters and survive the encounter. These modifications (which involve herbal preparations, magic potions and virus inoculations) leave them with superhuman strength, reflexes, dexterity, healing and the ability to open and contract their pupils at will (giving them improved night-vision). These modifications also leave them sterile, as well as immune to disease and poisons, and they are said to be completely devoid of human emotions (this is later discovered to be false).

    In the stories, Geralt, the central character, is said to be one of the world's best witchers. He is said to have resisted the "changes" during his childhood better than most, which encouraged his makers to perform even more dangerous experimental procedures on him. Because of these additional procedures, Geralt lost all body pigmentation. Because of his pale skin and white hair, he is also known in the Elder Speech as "Gwynbleidd", the White Wolf.

    In addition, he has alchemy skills. And he can use signs, which I suppose are magical powers, but not spells, exactly.
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    edited July 2015
    Hm. . . maybe an odd mix of Magus, Alchemist, and Ranger if you're allowing Pathfinder. Alchemist for buffing potions, Ranger for the tracking and monster hunting, and Magus for the mix of swordplay and spell.

    Maybe like Ranger 3 (Two-handed combat style)/Alchemist 4/Magus X

    Stats something like (Not using point buy or anything, just kind of guessing what his stats would be like)
    Strength: 16
    Dexterity: 16
    Constitutions: 18
    Intelligence: 16
    Wisdom: 15
    Charisma: 8

    Maybe higher strength and dex but he seems to be quite knowledgeable and knows alot about the world. He must have high fortitude saves because of being able to down near-toxic potions. Low charisma due to all the crazy stuff that has happened to his body and he seems to be very unsociable.

    http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger

    http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist

    http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus

    Edit: I'll look to see if any archetypes fit him well in a bit.

    Edit the second: Oh, and for race I'd roll with Half-Elf unless you want to homebrew a Witcher race.
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    Charisma 8!? He pratically bangs every chick he meets.
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459

    Charisma 8!? He pratically bangs every chick he meets.

    Hey, maybe he has a bunch of skill points in diplomacy, bluff, and other social skills XD
    I think Witcher's by default usually scare people hardcore and they are treated as outcasts.
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    Am I allowed to upload a PDF of a character sheet on here? I don't want to break the rules or anything. I put together a quick Geralt using Pathfinder rules. I still haven't looked at archetypes or anything but I made this in like 10 minutes. If I am breaking any rules or anything just say and I'll remove the character sheet.
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  • iKrivetkoiKrivetko Member Posts: 934
    He can't not be a fighter, that's for sure. In 3.5 terms, he will at least have these feats:

    Blind fight (to fight invisible creatures or while blinded)

    Power attack (Strong style)

    Combat Expertise + Whirlwind Attack (Group style)

    Weapon focus: Longsword (given how he hardly uses any other weapons)
  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    edited July 2015
    First of all, I don't believe there is anything in DnD to accurately represent witchers, especially very experienced ones, like Geralt himself. I'll give some traits you might to look for:

    - Mutations. Thanks to them, witchers are able to see in the dark quite well, have extraordinary reflexes that are not attainable for ordinary humans, immunity to most of diseases and some poisons (actually in the Witcher universe, witcher's potions are like strong poisons for normal humans). Aside from that, accelerated regeneration and sterility.

    - Each Witcher goes through training from hell in their school. In Geralt's example, Kaer Moren. They are recieving knowledge about monsters and how to fight them, how to make potions and how they work. The most important thing - they are becoming excellent swordsmen, even able to reflect incoming missiles (like bolts from crossbow). All swordplay they learn becomes their second nature, instinct.

    - Geralt is exceptional and experienced witcher. I think he'll be able to be as good fighter, if not better, than Drizzt* (since the later doesn't have genetically enhanced reflexes). Point is, he'll be a high level - he's not famous in his own universe for nothing.

    - Whatever profession you are willing to give him, remember he's mostly swordsman. He can make potions, but that doesn't make him alchemist right away. Also, he's not the sorcerer either, since witcher's sights are a child's play in comparison what sorcerers and sorceresses can do (in games, it's not that evident, I know).

    - Bombs and crossbows are in-game only. Geralt never used them in the books.

    EDITS:

    - Each of witchers, Geralt included, is a dex-based fighters. They fight with speed, practicaly not using armour at all.

    Here are some pointers from me.

    *I'm not going to argue who would win. Comparing characters from different universes is pointless.
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    Vallmyr said:

    Am I allowed to upload a PDF of a character sheet on here? I don't want to break the rules or anything. I put together a quick Geralt using Pathfinder rules. I still haven't looked at archetypes or anything but I made this in like 10 minutes. If I am breaking any rules or anything just say and I'll remove the character sheet.
    image

    I think Geralt is Neutral Good.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    I have to link the Witcher opening cinematic from the first game here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lispe-hxwNw
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694



    I think Geralt is Neutral Good.

    I disagree. Geralt is true neutral. He has to be. He doesn't take sides. He fights monsters when people pay him to do so and for bounties. He doesn't fight to make people safer. He fights monsters for money. That's his wheelhouse.
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    I think he's true neutral with tendencies for good over evil as exemplified by the "killing monsters" trailer for the Witcher 3.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0i88t0Kacs
  • iKrivetkoiKrivetko Member Posts: 934
    Vallmyr said:

    Am I allowed to upload a PDF of a character sheet on here? I don't want to break the rules or anything. I put together a quick Geralt using Pathfinder rules. I still haven't looked at archetypes or anything but I made this in like 10 minutes. If I am breaking any rules or anything just say and I'll remove the character sheet.

    >6'2" and 150 pounds
    I giggled
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    iKrivetko said:

    Vallmyr said:

    Am I allowed to upload a PDF of a character sheet on here? I don't want to break the rules or anything. I put together a quick Geralt using Pathfinder rules. I still haven't looked at archetypes or anything but I made this in like 10 minutes. If I am breaking any rules or anything just say and I'll remove the character sheet.

    >6'2" and 150 pounds
    I giggled
    Sorry I didn't edit age, height, or weight. Kind of forgot to do that. That was auto-generated with the program for character generation I use.
  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    I also think that True Neutral fits Geralt the best (but not perfectly). While he always tries to not get involved, circumstances are forcing decisions upon him. One of those circumstances became a reason he's know as Butcher of Blaviken (he choose "lesser evil").

    His usual lack of involvement is actually more because of who he believes he is (a witcher, therefore a mutant, not part of society etc.), instead of his actual look on good and evil.
  • SmilingSwordSmilingSword Member Posts: 827
    O_Bruce said:

    I also think that True Neutral fits Geralt the best (but not perfectly). While he always tries to not get involved, circumstances are forcing decisions upon him. One of those circumstances became a reason he's know as Butcher of Blaviken (he choose "lesser evil").

    His usual lack of involvement is actually more because of who he believes he is (a witcher, therefore a mutant, not part of society etc.), instead of his actual look on good and evil.

    I love how he uses "the Witcher's code" to get out of things, It' not I hate politics and want to stay as far away from them as mutantly possible, it's the code forbids a witcher from choosing a side or I don't want to fight this Dragon because it's a sentient creature, wise, old and strong, that would probably roast me alive but the code forbids me from fighting this dragon. Witchers have no code, they just tell people they do when they don't want to do something stupid.

    True Neutral does make the most sense for him.

    Stats

    Str 15

    Dex19

    Con19 or maybe even 20

    Int15

    Wis14

    Chr14

    Dex is high because Geralt relies on it for all of his fighting techniques, he never blocks an attack unless he has too, it's all about dodging. The Con is so he because any Witcher potion with straight up kill a normal human.

    Class looking at BG for a base, I would say I like the Stalker idea, but maybe Kensai would be a another option. Geralt is an amzaing swordsman, who doesn't wear armour. Either or he would be pretty high level, as he is about 100 yrs old and been a active Witcher since before he was 20.
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    From TVtropes Neutral Good page: ''Geralt of Rivia from The Witcher, usually slides into an extremely cynical example, though he will swear up and down to being True Neutral. Most Witchers are True Neutral, following a loose code that can be summed up with: kill monsters, get paid, don't involve yourself. Geralt admits to a few that he often makes up new aspects of the code whenever he's offered a job he's not comfortable with as a way to get out of doing it. He refuses to hunt sentient life without an extremely good reason, often goes out of his way to intervene when innocent lives are in danger, and has even professed to feeling bad about killing elven terrorists because their species is going extinct. He rarely associates with causes, because almost all causes in the ambiguously principled world he lives in tend to come with large loss of life, often innocent.''
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Vallmyr said:

    Charisma 8!? He pratically bangs every chick he meets.

    Hey, maybe he has a bunch of skill points in diplomacy, bluff, and other social skills XD
    I think Witcher's by default usually scare people hardcore and they are treated as outcasts.
    Charisma doesn't "Necessarily" mean good looks. Some pretty ugly men and women over the years have shown HIGH degrees of Charisma.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    Yes @the_spyder In 1e, Hitler is cited as a human with an 18 Charisma. In Unearthed Arcana, they introduced the stat known as "Comeliness" to show off physical attractiveness.
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