Will Legacy of Bhaal Mode be implemented into BG1 and BG2??

jjstraka34

I guess the most confusing thing about this expansion is what features to the engine are going to be implemented across the board in all 3 games (and maybe to a lesser extent in IWD as well). Or is this new tactical mode (which I would assume has some basis in the legacy of SCS) only going to apply to the Siege of Dragonspear content??

AWizardDidIt

I don't think it's been announced conclusively one way or the other but I believe the safe assumption is the new features available in SoD to start won't be in either EE right away but will likely be updated later.

I hope soon those updates do come out asap. I'd really like an alternative to the various tactics mods like SCS to make the games a bit more challenging.

Arcanis

Well, SoD is an expansion, so one would think that you can use it in BGEE from the get-go.
And since they also want to patch BG2EE for the new class and the new UI, I'm pretty sure that they will
includeLoB Mode.

@AWizardDidIt I *think* they said that BGEE will be patched once SoD comes out (since it is an expansion
and not standalone) and that they will be working at a BG2EE patch directly afterwards.
But i admittetly have little luck finding quotes atm (ned them for another threa x_x) so I could be wrong I guess =(

Flashburn

BG2EE has a 'Nightmare Mode' that works like IWD's Heart of Fury mode. It's not officially supported because its a hold-over from the enhancements of IWDEE, and it doesn't work like its supposed to (e.g. it gives your companions the bonus HP and levels as well). You can turn it on via Baldur.ini.

Since the Nightmare Mode is already there, I'd say that it will become the Legacy of Bhaal mode and will be on both BG1EE and BG2EE. But that's just my prediction.

Hudzy

I'm looking forward to trying it with SCS.

Faydark

Unless my memory fails me, the devs stated in the post announcement Q&A that the Story Mode and Legacy of Bhaal modes will be added to the existing games, and they were aiming to have that done at or around launch of SoD.

If it wasn't in the Q&A video, it was in one of the first few developer posts on the forums here following the announcements.

I don't have time atm to track it down sorry.

brunardo

I hope the Legacy of bhaal mode is like SCS...HOF just makes the enemies take more hits but doest really offer any tactical changes. I think having a SCS mode finally implemented accross all BG is long over due

FinneousPJ

@brunardo It will be like HoF. But the great thing is you can SCS when using LoB.

brunardo

Thats not too bad then @FinneousPJ...hoping no bugs though but works fine on all BG EE so should be ok then

Dark_Ansem

I assume that an update will be rolled out to BGII too in order to put it on the same technical level...

Linkamus

Well for what it's worth, on the main page it says:

"Legacy of Bhaal Mode: A difficulty setting offering tactical challenges only the most skilled of players can hope to defeat"

By saying "tactical challenge" I would hope that means more than just buffing HP and damage output of monsters...

jjstraka34

Linkamus said:

Well for what it's worth, on the main page it says:

"Legacy of Bhaal Mode: A difficulty setting offering tactical challenges only the most skilled of players can hope to defeat"

By saying "tactical challenge" I would hope that means more than just buffing HP and damage output of monsters...

You would think so. If it's just Heart of Fury I'd hardly call that a "tactical challenge" though I suppose you do have to change tactics.

Son_of_Imoen

I remember the devs stating somewhere (in the Q&A? in the forum? can't remember) that they worked on improving the AI, so Legacy of Bhaal isn't (just) upped hit points.

The same statement makes me doubt though if the challenges are available outside of SoD as well though. It depends on wether the general AI is improved, or if they worked on the AI for specific battles and specific opponents. I hope it's a mixture of both. Still, for an upgraded AI in the BG & BG2, they'd have to work on specific enemies AI's outside of SoD as well, for a full implementation across the board.

Linkamus

Honestly they should just includ SCS and Ascension as check box options. If either are checked, lock the difficulty slider on insane.

Ygramul

Linkamus said:

Honestly they should just includ SCS and Ascension as check box options. If either are checked, lock the difficulty slider on insane.

Um. Sorry. No.
That's not how SCS works.

SCS options need to be carefully trimmed; one can't simply include all.
Much less so for Ascension.

Also, I ONLY play SCS on Core difficulty. To lock it to Insane is just... insane.

Linkamus

That's true I suppose... Well then perhaps the difficulty slider just disappears and it's just locked on core difficulty in the background. But you're right about all the SCS options. I guess that wouldn't work.