Using WeiDU, DLTCEP, and NI (Offsets) for custom Strrefs, and D Files.
Abdel_Adrian
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Hi,
I'm trying to fix all the custom strings in my mod as well as minimize the differences in code between BGEE and BG2EE.
There are a few areas where I've had to use STRING_SET and I'm trying to remove them all. Below is an example of how I've tried to use offsets in NI to set the strings of certain files I want in both games, and I'm not too sure if I have it right:
In addition to spell names/descriptions like above, and custom display strings on items, I'd also like to use this method for "Item Usability [319]", which I've gotten a little creative with. For example, I've got items that are restrictive to certain class/kit, race, and gender combos- but with strrefs in the field "special" that say things such as "IMOEN" or "Red Wizard of Thay." (This is because it's very easy to make a Sarevok only item, but not so much for Imoen apparently. And despite not adding a Red Wizard of Thay kit, I thought it'd be nice to have some roleplay items for Lawful Evil wizards, whether they be Edwin or not.)
I was hoping someone with more experience in NI than myself could tell me which line equates to the field "special" in DLTCEP, it doesn't seem as intuitive as the offsets for display string.
I'm also trying to make a few custom dialogs and this has been the most vexing problem I've had since transitioning from just DLTCEP to WeiDU.
I had a (very simple) sentient item and a cespenar mod working perfectly. Now when the item dialogue is viewed in NI or DLTCEP, it shows me the correct conversation that was working before, the strrefs all match up to what is supposed to be displayed, but in game I only have a few lines working and a bunch of lines displayed as some of my custom item descriptions. I'm about to do a fresh install to fix any problems in my dialog.tlk, but how do I fix these custom dialogs when they appear to be correct in the editors? If I use the offsets for the states and responses, would I just type SAY and the string I want? Or is there more to it due to "Response:" and "Flags: ( Text associated(0) )"?
And what about D Files? I don't know if this is the solution to my problem or not. I know how to compile them, but not so much how to write them. What program is best for the .txt you start with?
I'm trying to fix all the custom strings in my mod as well as minimize the differences in code between BGEE and BG2EE.
There are a few areas where I've had to use STRING_SET and I'm trying to remove them all. Below is an example of how I've tried to use offsets in NI to set the strings of certain files I want in both games, and I'm not too sure if I have it right:
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs1.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs1.spl~ SAY 0x8 @124 ~override/embs1.spl~ SAY 0x50 @125
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs1g.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs1g.spl~ SAY 0x8 @126 ~override/embs1g.spl~ SAY 0x50 @127
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs2.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs2.spl~ SAY 0x8 @132 ~override/embs2.spl~ SAY 0x50 @133
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs2g.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs2g.spl~ SAY 0x8 @134 ~override/embs2g.spl~ SAY 0x50 @135
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs3.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs3.spl~ SAY 0x8 @128 ~override/embs3.spl~ SAY 0x50 @129
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs3g.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs3g.spl~ SAY 0x8 @130 ~override/embs3g.spl~ SAY 0x50 @131
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs1g.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs1g.spl~ SAY 0x8 @126 ~override/embs1g.spl~ SAY 0x50 @127
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs2.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs2.spl~ SAY 0x8 @132 ~override/embs2.spl~ SAY 0x50 @133
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs2g.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs2g.spl~ SAY 0x8 @134 ~override/embs2g.spl~ SAY 0x50 @135
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs3.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs3.spl~ SAY 0x8 @128 ~override/embs3.spl~ SAY 0x50 @129
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs3g.spl~ ~override~ ~override/embs3g.spl~ SAY 0x8 @130 ~override/embs3g.spl~ SAY 0x50 @131
In addition to spell names/descriptions like above, and custom display strings on items, I'd also like to use this method for "Item Usability [319]", which I've gotten a little creative with. For example, I've got items that are restrictive to certain class/kit, race, and gender combos- but with strrefs in the field "special" that say things such as "IMOEN" or "Red Wizard of Thay." (This is because it's very easy to make a Sarevok only item, but not so much for Imoen apparently. And despite not adding a Red Wizard of Thay kit, I thought it'd be nice to have some roleplay items for Lawful Evil wizards, whether they be Edwin or not.)
I was hoping someone with more experience in NI than myself could tell me which line equates to the field "special" in DLTCEP, it doesn't seem as intuitive as the offsets for display string.
I'm also trying to make a few custom dialogs and this has been the most vexing problem I've had since transitioning from just DLTCEP to WeiDU.
I had a (very simple) sentient item and a cespenar mod working perfectly. Now when the item dialogue is viewed in NI or DLTCEP, it shows me the correct conversation that was working before, the strrefs all match up to what is supposed to be displayed, but in game I only have a few lines working and a bunch of lines displayed as some of my custom item descriptions. I'm about to do a fresh install to fix any problems in my dialog.tlk, but how do I fix these custom dialogs when they appear to be correct in the editors? If I use the offsets for the states and responses, would I just type SAY and the string I want? Or is there more to it due to "Response:" and "Flags: ( Text associated(0) )"?
And what about D Files? I don't know if this is the solution to my problem or not. I know how to compile them, but not so much how to write them. What program is best for the .txt you start with?
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COPY ~path/item.itm~ ~override~ // SAY NAME1 ~General Name~ // unidentified name for items OR spell name SAY NAME2 ~Identified Name~ // identified name for items; not used for spells SAY UNIDENTIFIED_DESC ~Unidentified Description~ // unidentified description for items, spell description for spells SAY DESC ~Identified Description~ // identified description for items, unused for spellsNote: Copy/pasted from here:
http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,630.0.html
That tutorial is a bit outdated, however. Use the one here to make a kit.
Also, this place should be your best friend:
http://gibberlings3.net/iesdp/index.htm
My wife is pacing. I'll try to read/answer the rest of your post sometime later.
COPY ~MyMod/MySpell.spl~ ~override~ SAY NAME1 ~General Name~ // unidentified name for items OR spell name SAY NAME2 ~Identified Name~ // identified name for items; not used for spells SAY UNIDENTIFIED_DESC ~Unidentified Description~ // unidentified description for items, spell description for spells SAY DESC ~Identified Description~ // identified description for items, unused for spellsSame link
What I cant figure out is how to do this with OPcode 319 Item Usability, because that involves string references too but comes up as unknown in NI.
SAY NAME1 ~~
SAY NAME2 @104
SAY UNIDENTIFIED_DESC ~~
SAY DESC @105
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/embs1.spl~ ~override~
SAY 0x8 @124
SAY 0x50 @125
COPY ~Bladesinger/Spells/emcdblsr.spl~ ~override~
SAY 0x15e @213
I am not at my computer, and the IESDP doesn't have anything on 319. When you say, "the opcode to display a string", you mean 139, yes? According to IESDP, you are looking for 0x0014
http://gibberlings3.net/iesdp/file_formats/ie_formats/eff_v1.htm
Your examples show spl's however, so I'm not sure that I understand what you are looking for.
How do you want your text to display in game ? As something that happens if an opponent gets hit with your spell? For that you would use 139.
Anyway, find here the spl file format
http://gibberlings3.net/iesdp/file_formats/ie_formats/spl_v1.htm
As for adding dialogs, you really, really need to do that using weidu to avoid messing up dialog.tlk. are you compiling your d files, or doing it some other way?
Some items/spells of mine use "Text: Display String [139]," I'm not having a problem with this either. Op code 139 has a field for the string reference and if you look up the offset in NI, you can easily use SAY ("offset") @("#").
The only thing I'm having a problem with, other than my custom dialogs, is finding the offset equivalent of the Op 139 string field with Op code 319 (the field "special" in DLTCEP). If I have an item using Op code 319 and there's a custom string in the special field, the item will say only usable by that custom string. At the moment, I have to use STRING_SET and then type in the strref into DLTCEP to get this to work. I just want to find the offset for this Op code like I've done with display string.
Parameter #1: IDS Entry
Parameter #2: IDS File
Description:
This effect restricts the item to creature(s) matching the object identifiers. The string to display when an invalid creature attempts to use the item is held in 0x2c.
Known values for 'IDS File' are:
2 EA.ids
3 General.ids
4 Race.ids
5 Class.ids
6 Specific.ids
7 Gender.ids
8 Align.ids
9 Kit.ids
10 Actor's name
11 Actor's scripting name (8 maximum in resource field)
If 'IDS File' is set to 10, the item is restricted to characters with the name specified by the strref held in parameter1.
If 'IDS File' is set to 11, the item is restricted to characters with the death variable specified by the resource field.
http://gibberlings3.net/iesdp/opcodes/bgee.htm
Hmm, can you upload one that you use STRING_SET to change? I can probably figure it out if I can poke it a few times.
Look in the unknown line... (I think you're using an outdated version of NI, because the 319 Opcode is not Unknown...
@Grammarsalad can't upload a .itm file, but seems like the "special" field for Opcode 319 is the last unknown line in NI.
My only problems now are custom dialogs/writing D files, but I'll worry about that later.
Attached you can find a screenshot of BOLT07.itm Effect 0 with Opcode #319...