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Khalid - Design or Bug? *minor spoilery*

Basically, Khalid tells me to talk to 2 people in Bridgefort. I don't remember the mage's name, but if I talk to him (and the sickening stone hits), Khalid disappears.

I've reloaded and can easily replicate the issue... every.single.time. So, maybe I can just negotiate the surrender of the fort, but it seems like an entire path is lost to me.
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  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    By any chance did you have Khalid in your group in BG1 and then remove him at level 1?
  • AzzaraAzzara Member Posts: 184
    I read somewhere that he gets assassinated by the stone but if you cast negative plane protection on him he survives. It worked for me.
  • MrGuseMrGuse Member Posts: 30
    edited April 2016
    elminster said:

    By any chance did you have Khalid in your group in BG1 and then remove him at level 1?

    If by "remove him" you mean "ran him naked into a group of hobgoblins," then yes. Is that the problem?
  • MrGuseMrGuse Member Posts: 30
    Azzara said:

    I read somewhere that he gets assassinated by the stone but if you cast negative plane protection on him he survives. It worked for me.

    Sunnovabitch. That worked. I love you, Azzara.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    MrGuse said:

    elminster said:

    By any chance did you have Khalid in your group in BG1 and then remove him at level 1?

    If by "remove him" you mean "ran him naked into a group of hobgoblins," then yes. Is that the problem?
    Yes. But the issue is known about and will be fixed.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    elminster said:

    By any chance did you have Khalid in your group in BG1 and then remove him at level 1?

    In my case that happened, because i didnt want Khalid in my group. Is that the reason he dissapears and never returns? Any way to circumnavegate around that? I am stuck in the middle of the game.
  • SceptenarSceptenar Member Posts: 606
    The reason he disappears is because he dies when the level drain rock hits the fort after you talk to the mage. The rock level drains everyone 1 level, but since Khalid is only level 1, he is reduced to level 0 and dies. Otherwise he is supposed to be on the ramparts outside.

    A workaround for this is to cast the level 4 priest spell "negative plane protection" on Khalid, then quickly talking to the mage and removing the rock before the spell expires. It has a short duration though so you will have to be quick. You'll need to have the scroll from the crusader camp already before doing this to be fast enough.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    edited April 2016
    Too late. I dont have saves beforthe rock hit. Can Kahlid be respwaned?

    Ps. Or any other way to make the story advance
  • TharivolTharivol Member Posts: 5
    edited April 2016
    I don't have any save before that rock hit either. Do I have to wait for patch? Or is there any other way?
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    edited April 2016
    You can attempt to directly attack the fort. Otherwise you can try enabling the console and using C:CreateCreature("khalid7"). What I'm about to describe however is not guaranteed to work.

    You can enable the console by inserting the following into My Documents/Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition

    SetPrivateProfileString('Program Options','Debug Mode','1')

    Then when you are in-game (as in you've loaded your save) you can hit ctrl+space. You should see a black box appear on the bottom of your screen. Its there that you can type in the C:CreateCreature("khalid7") code. Make sure to only spawn Khalid when you are in the outside area of the fort.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    elminster said:

    You can attempt to directly attack the fort. Otherwise you can try enabling the console and using C:CreateCreature("khalid7"). What I'm about to describe however is not guaranteed to work.

    You can enable the console by inserting the following into My Documents/Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition

    SetPrivateProfileString('Program Options','Debug Mode','1')

    Then when you are in-game (as in you've loaded your save) you can hit ctrl+space. You should see a black box appear on the bottom of your screen. Its there that you can type in the C:CreateCreature("khalid7") code. Make sure to only spawn Khalid when you are in the outside area of the fort.

    OK, thank you. I will try but
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    OK, I did it and it tells something like:

    string CreateCreature("khalid7"):1: set global effect CreateCreature not valid

    OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

    I also tried with just khalid (with no 7) to see what happened, but it is the same.

    By the way, I saw there is a nice "teleporter" now with the Console. Any ideas how can I use it to "scape" from this?. Can I go "forward"? What might happen?
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    Ok, it says exactly this:

    [string " CreateCreature("khalid7")"]1: attemp to call global 'CreateCreature' (a nil value)
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    edited April 2016
    helmo1977 said:

    OK, I did it and it tells something like:

    string CreateCreature("khalid7"):1: set global effect CreateCreature not valid

    OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

    I also tried with just khalid (with no 7) to see what happened, but it is the same.

    By the way, I saw there is a nice "teleporter" now with the Console. Any ideas how can I use it to "scape" from this?. Can I go "forward"? What might happen?

    And you are sure you used Ctrl+Space and then used

    C:CreateCreature("Khalid7")

    An alternative would be that you use

    SetGlobal("bd_bridgefort_plot","global",31)

    This should start the battle with Bridgefort joining in.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    Ok, i will try, but it was khalid OR Khalid? (First capital letter or not?)

    Perhaps there is something wrong with my console because i tried to spwan an item, just to see what happened and it told me the same.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    I tried with set global and it is the same.

    Just to try, you told me to enable the console by putting that about "Program options" Debug... In my documents/baldurgs gate enhanced edition. The thing is that i have two files there, one .ini that starts with

    CREATE TABLE OPTIONS

    And the other one .lua with

    Setprivate profile setting

    I copy and pasted what you told me in this second file. The .lua one

    Was that correct?
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Yes. Attach your lua file here (you may need to throw it in a zip file). I'll have a look.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    I dowloaded from beamdog, so i guess i dont need a zip
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    I will attach the file at once
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    edited April 2016
    Ummmm? how can I attach my lua? I cant using the Attach image/file. It tells me "File is not allowed"
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Did you put the lua in a zip file?
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    OK, that must be it

  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Looks good. It might just be easier if you attach your save folder (put the folder into a zip file) and I'll do it.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    Here it goes, my last save was an Auto Save, but I can send others
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Here you go
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    Thank you.- You have been very kind. It seems to be working now. Khalid was there and I could talk to him. Now I am attacking the crusaders camp.

    What was the problem with my console? Or was I doing something wrong?
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    You probably had an extra character somewhere.
  • TharivolTharivol Member Posts: 5
    edited April 2016
    Thank you, respawning Khalid helped. As an extra information though I may add that you have to respawn him outside the building where he should be to have dialog option which advance you with the main quest.
  • IllydthIllydth Member, Developer Posts: 1,641
    edited April 2016
    @Tharivol It looks like you were typing:

    CreateCreature("khalid7")

    instead of:

    C:CreateCreature("khalid7")

    The "C:" Is actually important. All console commands must start with that.

    Note that the console supports cut/copy/paste of commands. When you're getting one from the forums, it's generally a good idea to try C/C/P first.

    If you still get an issue, make sure you don't have any spaces in front of the "C:" part.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 364
    So everything must being by "C:"? then perhaos that was the reason why my console commands didnt work. I was directly tipying "CreateCreature" and not "C:CreateCreature".
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