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Dragonspear Castle scouting sidequests (minor spoilers)

maledictimaledicti Member Posts: 3
edited April 2016 in Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear
-Infiltration of the castle via the Warrens elevator: Is it possible to resolve the Belben confrontation peacefully? All dialogue options I have result in a fight, later on leading to an onslaught in the storage area that's basically unwinnable (at least on Insane difficulty).

-"On the Fence": How do I acquire the Red Knight symbol from Tristian? Merely trying to steal it had no results. Where can I get a replacement for it?

-"Blind Albino Wyrmlings": What use does the Shadow Gem have?

Thank you advance for any answers.

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  • lansounetlansounet Member Posts: 1,182
    On the fence : [Spoiler]you can talk about it with the infamous cleric Mizhena IIRC[/spoiler]

    Infiltration : [Spoiler]I believe there's some WIS check there. Not with Belben but with the 2 ogres, on my first playthrough as a cleric I was able to lie to them without starting a massive battle.[/spoiler]
  • maledictimaledicti Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2016
    I don't think it's a WIS check. I've got 21 of that (thanks BG1), and no dialogue option works. It doesn't matter whether I convince them via giving them wine, intimidate them, or ask Rhonda. It always ends up with Belben attacking me.
    Talking to Mizhena solved the second problem, however. Thanks!
  • maledictimaledicti Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2016
    I bothered to look through his .dlg file. It doesn't look to me like there's any peaceful conclusion to that encounter. I can't find one, at least. Guess I'll have to force my way through, then. Doesn't make much sense to me, since Jaheira implies there might have been a peaceful solution. And I think the "unwinnable encounter" I ran into was only supposed after taking too much time after slaughtering Belben's initial group. For me, it triggered from the start. The ogres even complained about hearing a massive ruckus up there, without me ever entering the warrens. A massive army of hasted, spell buffed to the max and absolutely mad crusaders, with near infinite reinforcements is waiting for me.

    I don't get it.
  • GotNoUsernameGotNoUsername Member Posts: 49
    Where is Tristan ? or Dreon I cant fin these NPC's at all :-(
  • EscarcheEscarche Member Posts: 61
    edited April 2016
    @maledicti For additional conformation: Glint is even warning the party that the fight is probably going to happen. About your problem, does it happen again?.. You didn't anger any crusader in the caverns, did you? I had similiar problems, when I tried to kill Strunk, before doing everything in the Warrens.
    http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/458613230109772720/1476B5A01F06C9975E546E5D3CB7082565F2830A/

    @GotNoUsername
    Dreon - http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/458613230109780301/D2786B3825B0CE6904AAFCEB917C51F29C9A5F41/ Tristan - http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/458613230109783525/E543187056889C04440333E7DBA5C80C49D9C830/

    Don't be afraid to use tab, it won't bite ^^
  • GotNoUsernameGotNoUsername Member Posts: 49
    Thx for the answer Escarche I found everything expect the hand drawn map where is it ?
  • Quill_ArmguardQuill_Armguard Member Posts: 53
    that one took me a while to figure out. It's really obvious though, it's one of those cursor changes rather than a chest or door that lights up
    click a table just after you enter through the main gates
  • MidoriMidori Member Posts: 26
    Has anyone discovered what is the shadow gem found in the albino wyrmlings cave used for?
  • EnilwynEnilwyn Member Posts: 140
    Midori said:

    Has anyone discovered what is the shadow gem found in the albino wyrmlings cave used for?

    I haven't found a use for it myself. I recently lamented it's probably just a pricey gem, like the rogue stone.

  • inethineth Member Posts: 746
    lansounet said:

    Infiltration : [Spoiler]I believe there's some WIS check there. Not with Belben but with the 2 ogres, on my first playthrough as a cleric I was able to lie to them without starting a massive battle.[/spoiler]

    That stat check with the Ogres does not avoid a fight upstairs, it avoids another, bigger fight once you come back down.
    And it's a Charisma check, not Wisdom.
    I failed that check the first time, and EVERYONE in the warrens went hostile and ran towards my party. For me, that was a completely unwinnable encounter.
    So I reloaded, and this time had my PC drink a potion of Persuasion (+CHA) before going back down the lift, and this time the Ogres let me leave peacefully.
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