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Torchlight 2

BelgarathMTHBelgarathMTH Member Posts: 5,653
edited September 2012 in Off-Topic
Hi, is anybody else playing Torchlight 2 now that BG:EE has been delayed? I've started it, and my first impressions are that it is really, really good, or at least, it is if you like action, powerbuilding, loot-collection, single-toon RPG's.

It's so much better than Diablo 3, in my opinion, it's laughable. And, I'm "overjoyed", (using a hyperbole here), to have an ARPG to play that is in a league with Sacred 2 and Titan Quest. Diablo 3 was such a disappointment! They got so much wrong in the ARPG formula, I was sad.

And, Torchlight 2 was one-third of the cost of Diablo 3 - a brand new, contemporary game with beautiful graphics and engaging gameplay, for the same price as BG:EE.

What's not to love?

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  • WigglesWiggles Member Posts: 571
    I'll hopefully be able to get it Wed. once my ISP stops by and installs my internet. Can't wait to stop posting on my phone. O and D3 was horrible, about on par with ME3's ending, but just all the time.
  • sandmanCCLsandmanCCL Member Posts: 1,389
    I thought about it but lucked into a free copy of Borderlands 2. My brother's birthday is next month and both his wife and his coworkers thought to get him a copy of it over Steam as an early birthday gift. He gave me the extra copy, so I've been playing that.

    Great fun. Just what I needed right now.

    I agree about D3 sucking. It even makes me like Jennifer Hale just a little less and she's my favorite voice actress. That's how bad that game was.
  • CheesebellyCheesebelly Member Posts: 1,727
    Bought it, downloaded it and installed it but haven't ran it up yet.
    Playing an awful lot of Minecraft as of late. And a freshly bought GOTY of Dead Island, gift from my very generous girlfriend :D (And I bought her Dragon Age Awakening, just because she didn't have it yet).

    Guess I'll get into Torchlight 2 before too long. Although I still have a few games that I bought but never had the time to play...
    (namely : ARMA 2 (for DayZ purposes), Assassin's Creed Revelations, Bastion, BIT.TRIP BEAT, Braid, Cave Story, Dawnguard, Deus Ex Human Revolution, LIMBO, Lone Survivor, Metal Gear Solid HD, Psychonauts, Space Chem, Spirits, Stronghold Crusader, Superbrothers : Sword and Sworcery, The Witcher 2, Uplink, Wizorb, X - beyond the frontier, X2 the Threat)
    ...
    OK, that's more than "a few". And I even wanna buy the Humble Indie Bundle 6 D:
  • KnettgummiKnettgummi Member Posts: 152
    I was gonna get T2 (and I still am, eventually), but then GW2 released their Mac client out of nowhere! :D
  • ajwzajwz Member Posts: 4,122
    I have thought about getting it, but will I like it if I didn't like torchlight?
    I thought the art style was rubbish and I didnt like any of the classes.
  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    Seriously? Torchlight II gameplays are looking like more cartoony Diablo III. And since I already own Diablo III, there is no way I'm going to spend my money on game that looks almost the same. The fact I'm not D3 hater doesn't help either.

    And true, Diablo III had a medicore start and it was little dissapointing. Thing is, it becomes better and better after each patch.

    Oh by the way. What do you mean about "ARPG formula"? Because Diablo series always was hack & slash with some elements from rpgs (character getting stronger) and that's it. To think that back in D2 days hardcore cRPG wans would decapitate anyone who claimed D2 was rpg... Rpg fans, what the hell hapened? Have you forgotten what computer role-playing game means?
  • KnettgummiKnettgummi Member Posts: 152
    @ajwz
    The classes seem to have changed a little, but the art style is pretty much the same. I'm very excited to have more open, outdoors areas, and more than one town to visit!

    @ZelgadisGW
    T2 differs from D3 in that they went the opposite way with a lot of their game mechanics. In short, I think T2 "fixes" a lot of the things that D3 haters have been whining about, but that doesn't mean that people can't enjoy both. They're still pretty similar games, after all.

    D3 had some absurd expectations to live up to, though. I'll admit it doesn't have the longevity of D2 in its current state, but I still played (and enjoyed) it for ~100 hours, which is pretty decent value for my $60, IMO.
  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    @Knettgummi
    Ok, I admit that people can enjoy both and that is OK. But, you'll have to be in really good financial shape to afford buying two simillar games. And because I'm not in such good shape, I will not buy Torchilight II. I'll rather save my money for something other.
  • Metal_HurlantMetal_Hurlant Member Posts: 324
    With Torchlight, I found a very basic, cartoony, easy to play dungeon crawler that seemed to be aimed at 10 year olds. I don't understand why so many people raved about it. Knowing the type of game this is, I won't be buying Torchlight 2. I'd prefer to play a game that has a little realism with its graphics instead of playing a cartoon.
  • CheesebellyCheesebelly Member Posts: 1,727
    Just played 2 hours straight of Torchlight and I must say I am very pleasantly surprised.

    The game is easy to get into, combat mechanics may seem simple but overall you can run some logistic behind it (skill that improves weapons first, skill that weakens enemies second, skill that slashes enemies third. Yeah, I am a Berserker alright XD ). Graphics might not be the best in the world but they ARE nice. Colorful yet dark when needed. Maps are nicely designed (maybe randomly generated?) and... should I talk about Fishing? I mean, I could spend DAYS doing that! XD

    So far, so good. Not the hardest game on the normal difficulty setting either. Will have to try the other ones once I am done with the first run.
  • KnettgummiKnettgummi Member Posts: 152
    ARPGs are all about the feel of the gameplay (it's mostly A and not so much RPG, frankly), and Torchlight 1 felt good to play, IMO. Sure it's kinda mindless, but there's a rewarding sense of flow and progression to it all the same.

    I like the visual style of the Torchlight universe as well. Whether or not one likes the "cartoonyness" of the graphics, the overall stylistic direction is an important part of what sets the game apart from Diablo and other similar games.
  • ZafiroZafiro Member Posts: 436
    edited September 2012
    I'm not crazy about the art style; I hanker for IWD art direction. The music ain't much to talk about. And the outlander saves the day for me. I can't play any of the other classes. I'll just pretend the outlander ain't just silly for a ranger with..curses and summons. I think the game has great potential with upcoming mods; I'm looking for a paladin/cleric class, dare I ask for a druid? The pet seems overpowered; haven't died yet on veteran.
    Oh, Mordrox was fun, and the Plunder Cove; gotta love pirates.

    Edit: I just died..
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  • BelgarathMTHBelgarathMTH Member Posts: 5,653
    @Cheesebelly, indeed, the only difficulty worth playing is Elite. It gives you a roughly equivalent tactical challenge to BG on Core Rules, or even Hard.

    So far, my level 8 prismatic bolts ember mage has not died. I've tried both a magma spear ember mage, and an ice bolts ember mage. I think it's prismatic bolts build for me. (Why in the world don't ice bolts do target seeking like prismatic bolts? I guess they were thinking that ice spec gets more powerful later on - "quadratic" progression, and all that.) And it kind of plays like a NWN magic missile specialist wizard or sorc (magic missiles, Isaac's storms in all your spell slots, plus spell penetration, spell focus, empowered spell, maximized spell, etc. - all the metamagic feats - it's a great build that rocks against dragon fights.)

    I *love* my blue panther pet. He tanks for me, as every mage needs a good warder/bodyguard/tank to protect him. And animal companions are *so* much nicer to bond with than humans, who usually start complaining or trying to hook you into a romantic commitment or something lame like that.

    In fact, my enjoyment of playing a mage with blue panther animal companion is inspiring me to want to try NWN again as a druid who focuses on buffing his panther animal companion with magic fang and awakening spells, and functions as a mage with his flame lash, call lightning (best offensive spell *ever* in NWN!), and ice storms. With access to healing spells, barkskin, and stoneskin, not to mention premonition, to boot. And I'm also getting inspired to try a totemistic druid in BG. If only I could control the spirit animal summoning to always get a cat!

    And, OMG, fishing! Everything you can catch fishwise amounts to a Heal spell for your animal companion! Fish not only transform him or her into a stronger polymorphed form, they also cast Heal to full hit points! And then you can get goldfish worth over 700 gold, spell scrolls (which drop so rarely that spending time fishing is the only semi-reliable way you're ever going to get one), and unique items.

    I think that I will often spend my downtime on working days, when I can't seriously play the game in combat, just playing the fishing mini-game! It will make my character/toon and my animal companion get more and more powerful the more I do it! Plus, you can unlock achievement medals! I just got my journeyman fisherman achievement unlocked last night!

    This game is so freaking awesome! I can't gush about it enough!
  • _Q__Q_ Member Posts: 48
    I'm actually playing the first Torchlight at the moment. I got a copy on the cheap by buying the Humble Indie Bundle 6. You should definitely check it out if you haven't already: https://www.humblebundle.com/

    Hack-and-slash isn't my favorite genre, but I'm still enjoying it a lot. I like the cartoony art-style better than Diablo's and I love the fact that the game is DRM free (I'd never buy Diablo 3 due to the crazy DRM even though it looked like a lot of fun).

    The only complaint I have so far is that I'm playing a summoner character and the game doesn't have health bars for my minions, so I can't always tell when to summon new ones.
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