So who's exactly responsible for the new UI and what can be done about it?

Sophiel777

Because it's just plain hideous.
Keep in mind that it's just my own opinion, but as you can see is shared by many others.
Why replace a perfectly good old look of menu's and character sheets and force upon users new underdeveloped ones?
It just doesn't make any sense.
When can we expect a frontend in-game solution to tweak out any unnecessary changes brought by 2.0 and 2.1?

DetectiveMittens

https://forums.beamdog.com/categories/ui-modding

Albeit considerably back-end but if it really bothers you so much you can configure the UI to your preference.

mf2112

Maybe you aren't aware, but nearly everything in the UI is now customizable. Dee even made a new UI Modding subforum.

I am loving Pecca's widescreen mod, if your screen width is more than 1500 pixels then you can get a LOT more information there than the old character sheets.

Just to show the breadth of the new system, this is something I did with some assistance. One of my final BG2 charnames. No scroll bars. It is not a complete wall of text, I would like move the compacted proficiencies list up to the front page and I know how to do that now I think but I would like to do a bit more with colors or fonts to break it up a bit more first.

illathid

Sophiel777 said:

Because it's just plain hideous.
Keep in mind that it's just my own opinion, but as you can see is shared by many others.
Why replace a perfectly good old look of menu's and character sheets and force upon users new underdeveloped ones?
It just doesn't make any sense.
When can we expect a frontend in-game solution to tweak out any unnecessary changes brought by 2.0 and 2.1?

The old UI was ugly and broken. The new one is much better.

Rawgrim

illathid said:

Sophiel777 said:

Because it's just plain hideous.
Keep in mind that it's just my own opinion, but as you can see is shared by many others.
Why replace a perfectly good old look of menu's and character sheets and force upon users new underdeveloped ones?
It just doesn't make any sense.
When can we expect a frontend in-game solution to tweak out any unnecessary changes brought by 2.0 and 2.1?

The old UI was ugly and broken. The new one is much better.

And yet people were happy to use the old one for over 20 years.

It wasn't THAT broken.

mf2112

Rawgrim said:

illathid said:

Sophiel777 said:

Because it's just plain hideous.
Keep in mind that it's just my own opinion, but as you can see is shared by many others.
Why replace a perfectly good old look of menu's and character sheets and force upon users new underdeveloped ones?
It just doesn't make any sense.
When can we expect a frontend in-game solution to tweak out any unnecessary changes brought by 2.0 and 2.1?

The old UI was ugly and broken. The new one is much better.

And yet people were happy to use the old one for over 20 years.

It wasn't THAT broken.

I don't think most people have been using the original UI for 20 years. There have been a number of patches and revisions to it that make it difficult to remember the significant number of issues with it.

illathid

Rawgrim said:

illathid said:

Sophiel777 said:

Because it's just plain hideous.
Keep in mind that it's just my own opinion, but as you can see is shared by many others.
Why replace a perfectly good old look of menu's and character sheets and force upon users new underdeveloped ones?
It just doesn't make any sense.
When can we expect a frontend in-game solution to tweak out any unnecessary changes brought by 2.0 and 2.1?

The old UI was ugly and broken. The new one is much better.

And yet people were happy to use the old one for over 20 years.

It wasn't THAT broken.

I used it but I wasn't happy about it. There's a difference.

mf2112

Orignal BG1 UI:

BG1 1.3 UI

BG1 2.1 UI

1.3 UI pics here: https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/48317/i-do-not-like-the-simplification-of-character-details-in-inventory-ui/p1

Purudaya

For me, the SoD UI has been fully backported into BG1. I don't actually mind except for the fact that the ESC/options screen is showing the Dragonspear logo instead of the BG1 logo.

mysterymeep

Probably never, absent mods. I don't see any reason that the team would devote extra work to getting rid of an improvement instead of working on new stuff.