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Shadowkeeper - a happy party

MoomintrollMoomintroll Member Posts: 1,498
edited October 2012 in Off-Topic
BG2, Edwin and I are having artistic differences. I've tried changing his alignment to lawful good (hee hee!) and lowering my rep, to 14, I wasn't keen on going really low; so he still keeps leaving!

Any suggestions as to what I can do to make him happy without lowering rep?

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  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited October 2012
    Install the Happy Patch component in BG2 Tweakpack at G3:

    http://www.gibberlings3.net/bg2tweaks/index.php

    Not sure if you need to do this at the start of the game, though.
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    edited October 2012
    It can be done at any time. What it does is alter happy.2da, which you can also do manually with an editor such as NI. You can then determine exactly for every alignment at what reputation they will be angry to the point of leaving, annoyed, neutral and happy.
  • MoomintrollMoomintroll Member Posts: 1,498
    @Shin is that beyond shadowkeeper?
  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    So... Without cheating, if I wanted to play with Viconia (never have), does she really bail at high reputation?
  • MoomintrollMoomintroll Member Posts: 1,498
    edited October 2012
    @reedmilfam yes, I think even true neutral ones do too. I'm sure Branwen did in BG, can't remember Jameira ever doing it though, she just moans!
  • Awong124Awong124 Member Posts: 2,642
    edited October 2012
    Moomintroll said:

    @reedmilfam yes, I think even true neutral ones do too. I'm sure Branwen did in BG, can't remember Jameira ever doing it though, she just moans!

    Neutral characters never leave due to reputation. They'll be unhappy at the extremes, but they won't leave. At least that's what it says in the manual. It's possible they could leave due to other factors though. Such as not going to Nashkel early enough for Jahiera.
  • MoomintrollMoomintroll Member Posts: 1,498
    @Awong124 I'm pretty certain about Branwen leaving, but it's not like I have any proof! Don't they also just disappear if you remove them from your party whilst they are at odds with your rep?
  • Awong124Awong124 Member Posts: 2,642
    I'm not sure what happens when manually removing them, don't have too much experience with that. In the manual it says that good characters "break" at low rep, evil characters "break" at high rep, and neutral characters never "break" they're just unhappy at either extreme.
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    Moomintroll said:

    @Shin is that beyond shadowkeeper?

    @Moomintroll Yeah, you will need NearInfinity or DLTCEP to edit those files. Don't let that discourage you though, once in the program it's a lot like editing a text file.

  • MoomintrollMoomintroll Member Posts: 1,498
    edited October 2012
    Thanks @Shin, I'll give that a go if I can locate a flash drive to put that onto my BG computer with!
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    edited October 2012
    Neutral characters "Break" (leave your party) at the lowest reputation levels, and get "Angry" at the highest reputation levels, and generally have no point at which they are "Happy".

    There's a table in the manual that explains the break-down.

    Personally I'd rather it be somehow based on Charisma. But that's a rant for another thread. :)
  • MoomintrollMoomintroll Member Posts: 1,498
    @Aosaw we all know the manual is full of lies! Anyway rather than me relying on my bad memory, maybe I can prove it to myself either way by checking with NearInfinity.
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    Suffice to say that the new manual will not be filled with quite so many lies. :)
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Aosaw said:

    Suffice to say that the new manual will not be filled with quite so many lies. :)

    Ohhh but I liked getting complete misinformation. I'm still waiting on the fighter/mage/druid class that reportedly exists. :)
  • ARKdeEREHARKdeEREH Member Posts: 531
    reedmilfam said:

    So... Without cheating, if I wanted to play with Viconia (never have), does she really bail at high reputation?

    If you are playing BG2, do the Viconia romance quest and you have the chance to get her alignment to change to True Neutral. Otherwise, yes, she'll leave if your reputation gets to high. Of course, once she's True Neutral you can't do anything too over the top evil or she'll leave/attack you. I had that happen once. My otherwise evil party killed a bunch of civilians and then True Neutral Viconia attacked us because we were being too evil, lol.

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