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buckbeachbuckbeach Member Posts: 63
in Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition
Does entering a building and finding items (and keeping) inside hurt the reputation of a honorable lawful character? I am not asking about a thief.

Buck

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  • Mr2150Mr2150 Member Posts: 1,170
    You will know if you are spotted or lose reputation...
  • SirBatinceSirBatince Member Posts: 882
    you're safe as long as you don't kill the guards, even if they turn red
  • buckbeachbuckbeach Member Posts: 63
    Thanks
  • JumboWheat01JumboWheat01 Member Posts: 1,028
    It's not a crime if you don't get caught~!

    Plus, it's also not a crime to take something if you didn't have to unlock it, even if you do it in plain sight.

    It is a crime, however, to unlock something, take its goods, get caught, roll a 20 on the guard and turn him into tiny little giblets.
  • rapsam2003rapsam2003 Member Posts: 1,636
    JumboWheat01 said:

    Plus, it's also not a crime to take something if you didn't have to unlock it, even if you do it in plain sight.

    Not necessarily true, there are several shops that have items on shelves or in boxes. Taking these items will flag the guards, unless you somehow manage to hide in plain sight.
  • JumboWheat01JumboWheat01 Member Posts: 1,028
    alceryes said:

    It's also NOT a crime to pick a lock.
    The moment you open the container that you unlocked, however, "Oh, oh, I'm the bag guy..."

    Ooh... well, I'm off to get a bunch of free, bonus experience just lying around.
    rapsam2003 said:

    JumboWheat01 said:

    Plus, it's also not a crime to take something if you didn't have to unlock it, even if you do it in plain sight.

    Not necessarily true, there are several shops that have items on shelves or in boxes. Taking these items will flag the guards, unless you somehow manage to hide in plain sight.
    True, I forgot about the shops. But I generally go to shops to unload, not stock up, hehehe.
  • marzbarzmarzbarz Member Posts: 187
    rapsam2003 said:

    JumboWheat01 said:

    Plus, it's also not a crime to take something if you didn't have to unlock it, even if you do it in plain sight.

    Not necessarily true, there are several shops that have items on shelves or in boxes. Taking these items will flag the guards, unless you somehow manage to hide in plain sight.
    Haha guards rush in and theres my low lvl thief cowering behind the sword rack or under a table hugging the shiny sword I tried to take while trying to hide in plain view. The guards/shopkeep just standing there with puzzled looks on their faces...

  • buckbeachbuckbeach Member Posts: 63
    All good to know.
  • magisenseimagisensei Member Posts: 316
    As everyone else has said - no witness = loot; with witnesses = maybe - as sometimes they don't care and sometimes they take exception to your theft; in a store = most definitely will you be arrested and suffer a rep lost.

    Of course stealing is one way to control your rep if you are finding it is getting to high and evil NPCs are complaining - just go to a store/house with witness and attempt a theft and dialogue your way out of it - keeps all those evil NPCs from leaving without having to resort to killing the random guard or farmer.

    On a quick side note - I played a rather neutral party with Dorn, Baeloth and Viconia - and even with the decrease they bring to your rep you will eventually gain too much (so many things give you a rep reward which is not that great) and they will leave if you are not paying attention.
  • JumboWheat01JumboWheat01 Member Posts: 1,028
    magisensei said:

    On a quick side note - I played a rather neutral party with Dorn, Baeloth and Viconia - and even with the decrease they bring to your rep you will eventually gain too much (so many things give you a rep reward which is not that great) and they will leave if you are not paying attention.

    What? No Edwin? You have all those evil people in your party and NOT have the god of magic in there? That's just silly.
  • alceryesalceryes Member Posts: 380
    rapsam2003 said:

    JumboWheat01 said:

    Plus, it's also not a crime to take something if you didn't have to unlock it, even if you do it in plain sight.

    Not necessarily true, there are several shops that have items on shelves or in boxes. Taking these items will flag the guards, unless you somehow manage to hide in plain sight.
    Really? I never encountered this. What shops consider it a crime to take stuff from unlocked containers?
  • rapsam2003rapsam2003 Member Posts: 1,636
    alceryes said:

    Really? I never encountered this. What shops consider it a crime to take stuff from unlocked containers?

    Several in BG city.
  • Yulaw9460Yulaw9460 Member Posts: 634
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  • IglosnofIglosnof Member Posts: 119
    edited May 2016
    I have another question about reputation.
    If my reputation drops down to 1 and stays at 1, can I actually finish the game? Can I still do quests? Are the spawning Flaming fist gonna be my only real problem?

    Thanks

    P.S. Is there a mod that ensures I only lose reputation for killing people if I am seen by someone else? Cause killing people far away from everyone else and still incurring a reputation loss is quite annoying.
  • JumboWheat01JumboWheat01 Member Posts: 1,028
    It's those squirrels, man! The report everything!

    I don't see why you couldn't complete the game at Reputation 1. Sure, it'll be a pain, but at least you won't have to worry about the guards during a certain point in the game, considering how you are quite experienced at fighting them.
  • UnderstandMouseMagicUnderstandMouseMagic Member Posts: 2,147
    @Iglosnof

    Losing rep for killing somebody out of sight of anybody else is useful. I wander around looking for some poor isolated peasant/begger, carefully selecting a victim for my muderous deeds, and Edwin, Vic, ect. congratulate me and everybody's happy.

    Rep gain in the games is hard to avoid.
  • magisenseimagisensei Member Posts: 316
    When you get to BG you can blackmail people (get gold + a rep loss, if you are evil this is always good) and do other things to lower your rep.

    There is also a mod (bg2 tweak anthology - I think) that allows you to place a few bards in taverns where they will tell tales that make you overly bloody and scary - and as such allowing you to better control your rep by dropped it.
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768
    Yulaw9460 said:

    In some of the tents in the Nashkell Carnival the shopkeeper would also turn hostile if you nicked something from the shelves, if I remember correctly. Or was it there? Meh...

    Now, the act itself didn't cause a drop in reputation, but killing the shopkeeper did, of course. Like any other shopkeeper.

    The weapons merchant at the Nashkell Carnival will call the guards if you look at the stuff on the tables.
  • Yulaw9460Yulaw9460 Member Posts: 634
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  • buckbeachbuckbeach Member Posts: 63
    I discovered a couple of things when stealing. When a thief picks a lock and steals with a game person in sight it triggers the guard. However if you distract the person out of sight with another character in another part of the floor, the thief can lift the goodies.
  • IglosnofIglosnof Member Posts: 119
    Very clever, I shall certainly put that to good use :)
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768
    buckbeach said:

    I discovered a couple of things when stealing. When a thief picks a lock and steals with a game person in sight it triggers the guard. However if you distract the person out of sight with another character in another part of the floor, the thief can lift the goodies.

    Another trick is to open any doors in the house and when the person walks through, shut the door. Or use your party members to box the person in when they reach a place where they can't see the container.
  • FinnTheHumanFinnTheHuman Member Posts: 404
    edited May 2016
    Back in the day when I first played, I would always have my thief hide right before opening the container, then pause immediately when it opened. Take all the stuff while paused then click out of the container and unpause. I don't know whether or not this works (worked), but it made me feel better. It kinda makes sense that it could work, what with timing issues of AI and events and updates and whatnot.
  • IglosnofIglosnof Member Posts: 119
    I have another question regarding reputation. If your rep is below 6, you are liable to encounter Flaming fist officers. The question is where? Is it only in civilized places like FAI, Beregost, Nashkel and Baldur's Gate or is it everywhere?

    Thanks
  • rapsam2003rapsam2003 Member Posts: 1,636
    edited May 2016
    Iglosnof said:

    civilized places like FAI, Beregost, Nashkel and Baldur's Gate

    These places. The Flaming Fist is too busy struggling to maintain order (with the iron crisis & all) in these places to both going after you in the wilderness.

  • IglosnofIglosnof Member Posts: 119
    Cool, that's good to know
  • UnderstandMouseMagicUnderstandMouseMagic Member Posts: 2,147
    People always talk about...reputation,
    I don't care what you do to them,
    Just be good to me.

    Sorry, I've had this song on my brain for the past couple of weeks and everytime I open the forum, with the title of this thread, it makes a comeback.
  • sparkleavsparkleav Member Posts: 871
    edited May 2016
    Thanks @UnderstandMouseMagic , now it's stuck in my head too :)
  • UnderstandMouseMagicUnderstandMouseMagic Member Posts: 2,147
    edited May 2016
    sparkleav said:

    Thanks @UnderstandMouseMagic , now it's stuck in my head too :)

    Here's the link

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khj9jyNvhpQ

    It's such a great song though.
    Always thought it suits a lot of the so called evil NPC'S, especially Edwin.
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