[Spoilers] Finding Soultaker?

HappyFunRun

Is there any possible way can find Soultaker and help Skie?

Calemyr

Not yet. Here's to hoping it'll become part of the BG2 storyline.

Fardragon

BG3

dracostrike

Isn't the Soultaker Dagger involved in ToSC too?

Calemyr

Yep. It's the focal point of Durlag's half the expansion. The fact that it plays a part in SoD just makes it your fault for freeing it.

Hope it isn't BG3. We need BG3 to be a new chapter (aging voice cast, for one), and it shouldn't be focused on a low level artifact, now matter how many lives it ruins.

Fardragon

"Princess preserved in crystal casket, can only be restored to life with a missing item" is an archetypal story set up.

Since BG3 must be 5th edition, we can deduce that it takes place around 200 years after SoD, so most of the cast will be new (unless they where preserved or are elves).

Of course, the brave young adventurer who finds the soultaker dagger and restores Skie to life would be just the beginning. Why did Irenicus imprison her? Is she a Bhaalspawn? Does the returned Lord of Murder want his essence back? Has she been corrupted? Is it a plot by Irenicus to bring himself back from the dead?

HappyFunRun

Feels like additional contents are coming for the BG series. Soultaker might be one of them. Or bring us the old nostalgic characters from BG1, Xan or Kivan for example!

Arcanis

Considering what it can do, I'm pretty sure it is a high-level artifact =P
I think & hope that it will be part of BG2 - Return to Dragonspear (or so =P).

Because now there needs to be another gap closed:
At the end of SoD you are pretty disliked in Baldurs Gate. SoA maces you into a hero of Suldanessalar, but I doubt that Baldurs Gate will care about that. ToB makes Bhaalspawn even more unpopular and after Saradush Waterdeep (correct me if it was another city..) sends an army against you, since you are blamed for the events there -which doesn't really sound helpful for popularity.

BUT Murder in Baldurs Gate (which is set a couple of decades or so later, I admit) shows him to be popular and his "Hero of Baldurs Gate" title restored.
So I would think that there is time either after defeating the Hooded Man (who seems to have usurped Bengoshis account oO) or during ToB for another adventure to save Skie and restore your fame in BG.

That would actually also allow you to find some friends of SoD again (since you are in the area) and maybe recruit them for the fight against the five..
A certain self-righteous fighter could easily be recruited in Bhaals old home, since there is a machine that allows you to summon everyone who is more or less alive and I'm relaitvely sure

that you can't really die in Hell. You could suffer alot though

, so there is no reason to not use that ^^

Fardragon

What it is is a P.L.O.T. device!

rapsam2003

Calemyr said:

Hope it isn't BG3. We need BG3 to be a new chapter (aging voice cast, for one), and it shouldn't be focused on a low level artifact, now matter how many lives it ruins.

I'd rather BG3 be a completely new setting, based in the 5E ruleset, with a new engine like...for example, the Unity Engine.

Arcanis

rapsam2003 said:

Calemyr said:

Hope it isn't BG3. We need BG3 to be a new chapter (aging voice cast, for one), and it shouldn't be focused on a low level artifact, now matter how many lives it ruins.

I'd rather BG3 be a completely new setting, based in the 5E ruleset, with a new engine like...for example, the Unity Engine.

While I'm not entirely on board concerning the engine (I have no dedicated graphic card and I want to play it =P) I agree with your sentiment.

Though I do believe it should center around Baldurs Gate and the resurected Bhaal.
There are also 2 possible BG cameos: Coran (now a member of Parliment) and Minsc (now longer a statue..)!

Anyways, after maybe another AddOn for BG2 , I think Beamdog should start with a new game.
I also think they should be more forward with information about their project - please don't let us wait for a couple of years till we hear anything about your next project x_x

rapsam2003

Arcanis said:

While I'm not entirely on board concerning the engine (I have no dedicated graphic card and I want to play it =P) I agree with your sentiment.

I'd rather game look good. The IE games are fine, but might as well use modern graphics. Pillars of Eternity is an example of a game using the Unity Engine.

Arcanis said:

I also think they should be more forward with information about their project - please don't let us wait for a couple of years till we hear anything about your next project x_x

There has been some talk around BG3 already. I think they're planning to use Kickstarter to raise funds for BG3 development.

Fardragon

Arcanis said:

Though I do believe it should center around Baldurs Gate and the resurected Bhaal.
There are also 2 possible BG cameos: Coran (now a member of Parliment) and Minsc (now longer a statue..)!

Coran is dead in the BG timeline, or do you mean Corwin? If so, as a human, she would be dead of old age in the 5th edition present. Strictly speaking, Baldur's Gate doesn't have a parliament anyway. Xan and Kivan could still be around.

As for the ending of SoD, all that stuff with soultaker daggers is way to convoluted to NOT be setting up a sequel. You could have got to the same point in a much more simple fashion.

Beamdog have a history of planning ahead, with events in SoD referred too in BG2EE.

rapsam2003

Fardragon said:

As for the ending of SoD, all that stuff with soultaker daggers is way to convoluted to NOT be setting up a sequel. You could have got to the same point in a much more simple fashion.

It would be kind of cool for the Soultaker dagger to pop up in BG3, something that the descendant (phsyical or "spiritual") of the CHARNAME in BG1/2 having to deal with it. That could work as a hook for Bhaal in 5E, since Bhaal is reincarnated for 5E.

Arcanis

Fardragon said:

Arcanis said:

Though I do believe it should center around Baldurs Gate and the resurected Bhaal.
There are also 2 possible BG cameos: Coran (now a member of Parliment) and Minsc (now longer a statue..)!

Coran is dead in the BG timeline, or do you mean Corwin? If so, as a human, she would be dead of old age in the 5th edition present. Strictly speaking, Baldur's Gate doesn't have a parliament anyway. Xan and Kivan could still be around.

As for the ending of SoD, all that stuff with soultaker daggers is way to convoluted to NOT be setting up a sequel. You could have got to the same point in a much more simple fashion.

Beamdog have a history of planning ahead, with events in SoD referred too in BG2EE.

I was referring to the comic series about Minsc and ..not-Neera (sorry bad with names =P)
Look it up, I found it great ^_^
I don think Xan is alive though, I have the feeling the Spellplague killed most mages (I did read littel about it sorry =P) and the Sundering did not ressurect everyone..


and @rapsam2003 I would prefer it as an AddOn, since I honestly believe that this would be a great way to redeem CHARNAME in Baldurs Gate and allow him to be the venerated hero he is in "Murder in Baldurs Gate"

The problem with it being in BGNext is that there is nearly nowone alive who would remember the poor girl and thus she would stay dead =/

rapsam2003

Arcanis said:

The problem with it being in BGNext is that there is nearly nowone alive who would remember the poor girl and thus she would stay dead =/

True.

Fardragon

I don't believe any future BG games will use the novel/comic comic timeline. They will favour the timeline from the games.

I don't think there is any room for more adventures involving the original BG protagonist. Their story is done.

I'm pretty sure Beamdog want their next project to be a full game, not another add-on. They have said as much.

I know any new games will only be licenced if they use 5th edition rules.

Xan may or may not have survived the spell-plague, that's up to the writers. If he did, he would be back to low level, making him a suitable companion for a new low level protagonist.

Skie is an important member of prominent noble house. She would certainly be remembered, her casket enshrined in a place of honour, entering legendary status after a few generations.

rapsam2003

Fardragon said:

I'm pretty sure Beamdog want their next project to be a full game, not another add-on. They have said as much.

BG3...here it comes!

Fardragon said:

I know any new games will only be licenced if they use 5th edition rules.

YAY!

I mean, that makes sense. But still. 5E rules are much more sensible, imo.

Fardragon said:

Xan may or may not have survived the spell-plague, that's up to the writers. If he did, he would be back to low level, making him a suitable companion for a new low level protagonist.

Hmmm...the spellplague killing Xan. Interesting thought.

Fardragon

Personally, I think it is more interesting if Xan survived the spellplague but lost his power. After all, you can't complain if you are dead.