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Sun Soul Monk solo possible?

NeoNeo Member Posts: 127
So I just completed BG2 ToB with a standard full party with my main character being a Sorcerer. I feel like trying to do a BG1/BG2 walkthrough with a solo Monk.

However, since there are so many possible classes in BG and the game is old, it's hard for me to find specific info on this (especially for BG1 as the Monk wasn't there until BG EE).

1- So far, I remember reading that there was one very good Monk item from Black Pits but I can't find back what it was and if it's worth it for me to go in there to find it for my Monk (I would have liked to start BG1 at lvl 1 but would have liked to have this particular item if there's almost nothing for Monks in the game). Anyone has an idea about what this item might be and if there's a way for me to transfer the item and start the Monk at level 1?

2- I also read that Rasaad has 1-2 items I can take from him (but only if I'm Lawful Good). Do I need to complete Rasaad's quest to get all of these items or I can just invite him to my party, take the items and kick him out?

3- My main hesitation is that I wanted to go with Sun Soul Monk because I wanted the nice AOE damage spell (especially that since I'll be soloing, there won't be a problem using it). It also would have let me get Rasaad's items from BG1 EE. My biggest concern is that if I do this, it might be impossible for me to solo BG2 and ToB. So far, the only info I was able to find was that the only way to solo the dragons as a Monk is to use the Quivering Palm and that they might die from it. If I go Sun Soul Monk, I unfortunately don't get access to this. So I'm left with either the Dark Moon monk (skills seem like meh and I miss out on Rasaad's items so I basically can't get any gear in BG1 when Monks are already very weak there) or the regular Monk which sounds a bit boring as it seems to have fewer abilities and less flavor.

4- Is Sun Soul Monk incapable of soloing BG2/ToB in this case (or has to rely on Cloudkill wands cheesing this way and waiting forever for the dragons to hide while hiding)?

5- Am I overestimating that Sun Soul Monk AOE damage? I just played with my Sorcerer and I had Dragon's Breath, Abi-Dalzim, etc. It was hard hitting AOE. I guess since the Monk's AOE damage doesn't scale, it might not be so impressive in the end (especially with half dmg when resisted)? Am I underestimating Quivering Palm for other things than just killing dragons? I'm not super excited about the fire spells considering I just finished ToB and a part of it had mobs that were resistant or immune to fire.

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  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    Any of the Monks can solo the whole saga. BG1 will be the hardest part. The biggest problem in SoA is that there's no way to protect yourself from level drain. Eventually, you can have 100% magic resistance and be able to just punch the crap out of everything. It actually gets kind of boring toward the end.

    Rasaad's boots and bracers can't be used by anyone but Rasaad. I don't know about a Black Pits item, but it's been a while since I've played BP1.

    My view is that Dark Moon Monk is the best kit for the BG saga. Detect Illusion and Mirror Image are extremely useful.
  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    Neo said:

    2- I also read that Rasaad has 1-2 items I can take from him (but only if I'm Lawful Good). Do I need to complete Rasaad's quest to get all of these items or I can just invite him to my party, take the items and kick him out?

    Both. He has some useful items equipped that you can steal off him before you kick him out, and he also gets more during his quest line. I'm not 100% sure though if you can just use all of them on your Monk or whether some are specific to Rashaad.
    Neo said:

    3- My main hesitation is that I wanted to go with Sun Soul Monk because I wanted the nice AOE damage spell (especially that since I'll be soloing, there won't be a problem using it). It also would have let me get Rasaad's items from BG1 EE. My biggest concern is that if I do this, it might be impossible for me to solo BG2 and ToB.

    Any class can solo the unmodded game. It might be easier with some than with others, but it's still very much possible for anyone. Don't worry about special tactics for dragons, you can just punch them to death normally.
    Neo said:

    4- Is Sun Soul Monk incapable of soloing BG2/ToB in this case (or has to rely on Cloudkill wands cheesing this way and waiting forever for the dragons to hide while hiding)?

    "Cheese" is a very vague term, so this is difficult to answer. In general, though, you should be able to punch to death just about anything. You may have to wait out some defensive buffs on occasion, though, or get creative with items etc.
    Neo said:

    5- Am I overestimating that Sun Soul Monk AOE damage?

    It all depends on what you think will be the most challenging parts. However, do not make the mistake of thinking SSM to be an AoE niche role; even without things like QP they can be formidable single-target performers. Monk fists hit very hard.

    In general, you can be fairly safe assuming that without difficulty-enhancing mods, you can just play whatever you think is cool and awesome. You won't be left unable to complete the game, or be denied vital parts of it - however, depending on what you choose you may need to think a bit more and try harder than on some other classes. That is not meant to discourage you, of course; on the contrary, you should find MORE enjoyment in that than you would in an easy win ;)
  • PteranPteran Member Posts: 388
    edited July 2016

    Don't worry about special tactics for dragons, you can just punch them to death normally.

    Your comment reminded me of that Skyrim video by King Robbaz, "Unarmed Badass Viking"

    Warning: NSFW - He swears quite liberally so if you're at work turn down the volume lol. I tried a spoiler tag but it's not working on my phone for some reason =/

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBiNx749Zw

    On topic though you should be just fine as a SSM. BG1 is rough for any monk. I'm unfamiliar with what items you're referring to, but by BG2 you'll be punching everything to death pretty easily.
  • NeoNeo Member Posts: 127
    Hah, that was a funny video :P . I ended up starting with the Dark Moon one cause I think that the Detect Illusions might be needed late game and I wanted to play an evil character for once. It's just that I'll have to give up on Rasaad's boots (some people and sites say I can take them, some say that only he can wear it). The Sun Soul Monk seems the most interesting one for high damage output and the AOE would be nice but I guess it'd be similar to a weak Skull Trap with no saving throw debuff (and fire dmg) so it might not be that amazing in the long run. The stun seemed more interesting than the frozen fists and lay on hands than vampiric touch but I guess that the other Dark Moon Monk buffs might compensate. It was a tough choice and I'm still unsure about what I went with.
  • PteranPteran Member Posts: 388
    From what I've seen most people agree DMM > SSM. But if you find you're not enjoying the playstyle then don't feel obligated to keep playing the character.

    Taking advantage of the various spells your DMM has access to will greatly improve your survivability.
  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    Neo said:

    It's just that I'll have to give up on Rasaad's boots (some people and sites say I can take them, some say that only he can wear it).

    They were usable by any Lawful Good Human Monk in the initial release. It got changed in one of the updates.

    By the way, my opinion about DMM vs. SSM is different for IWDEE. SSM is awesome in that game.
  • ArunsunArunsun Member Posts: 1,592
    You can, BG1 will be the hardest part, and you might face trouble against the final boss as well but the rest can be worked around fairly easily.
  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,457
    I've played a bit with sun soul monk, but not with the latest EE release. The AOE damage was a bit odd in earlier versions in that it didn't consistently affect the same area and I'm told that the AOE was actually a bug - and that the sun soul ray has been corrected to single target in the latest release. Assuming that's correct that may confirm your decision to go dark moon monk - though sun soul still has good potential as a solo character.
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