Gnome Portraits

PK2748

Does anyone have a good Gnome portrait? I've searched around and not found anything good.

smeagolheart

me either. There are like 2 gnome pictures and 5 halfling pictures in existence anywhere

Kamigoroshi

I see your thread and raise it by five beards!

Everyone ought to have gnomish warriors with mighty sideburns!

Rodrian

We all know the routine here, tell me more about him/her, and I will provide a good  one
(UNLESS you're about to build the CHAR based on the portrait . . )

jesterdesu

I found this:

http://avtospektr.biz/garden-gnome-pictures/

PK2748

I'm building a gnome cleric/thief. He looks and acts like a rogue, a young man of action, so light chain or heavy leather. Silver highlights at the temples in his dark red hair, sharp hawklike nose and goatee but no mustache. At least that's how he looks in pen and paper but just not a WoW tech steampunk reject look and not a aged scholar type would be a great start

Rodrian

That could be a decent start, though a couple of tweaks would be most welcome I suppose. .
Maybe some good soul from these forums might want to help and baldurize  it further? ^^

JumboWheat01

If you have Photoshop, I can suggest the "oil paint" filter. If you tweek it right, you get a pretty sweet looking portrait for Baldur's Gate.

Astafas

My general problem with gnomes are how they've changed from 2nd to 3rd edition: from dwarf-like to elf-like. That's one heck of a change. Whatever portrait you add, you'll get it wrong in some perspective. But I suppose a wrinkled, big-nosed youngster like Jan is the canon way to go...

PK2748

I'm firmly in the second edition camp. A three and a half foot gnome weighs roughly 80 pounds. That's twice the weight or more of a human child but the portraits are all frail looking and built like elves. It's just not setting accurate. Wrinkles aren't necessary for a twenty year old gnome but a little more heft certainly is

ussnorway

one of my fav gnomes is the bard... this is perhaps the first gnome image and still holds its head high

D&D allows their use for gaming but not retail

JumboWheat01

Looks more like a halfling to me. Sideburns and bare, hairy feet. Yes, halflings have pointy ears too, the degree seems to vary from edition to edition, but pointy ears they have.

PK2748

I feel like after second edition when TSR was no longer involved WOTC just had no idea what to do with gnomes. At all. They aren't just spell casting Halflings

JumboWheat01

They do seem to practically re-design Gnomes every single edition. I wonder what they'll look like when 6e rolls around, assuming there isn't a 5.5...

Kamigoroshi

We already saw gnomes as thin dwarves, as short elves and as troll doll feys. What surprises me is that they weren't represented as earth elementals in D&D yet. One would think Paracelsus' influence would be stronger in fantasy settings such as Forgotten Realms.

PK2748

Deep gnomes basically started out that way in 1st edition. Playable creatures of elemental earth

Rodrian

@PK2748 , about that  portrait, did you find it useful? Are you still looking for one?
I don't want to sound miffed, but I'm not sure 'bout your response which and made me feel maybe a little "disdained". .

PK2748

Sorry Rod, I was kind of waiting to see if anyone could Baldur it up a bit. I personally have no artistic ability but I want something that blends with the rest of the game

JumboWheat01

@PK2748 I'll admit to not being a master of it, but I have "painted" it up, and set it at the "proper" size, of 210x330.

Winterisle

How about this one?

Winterisle

Here's a few more I sometimes use:

JumboWheat01

Winterisle said:

Here's a few more I sometimes use:

Oi! One does not simply steal Tiax's likeness from Tiax! Tiax shall get his revenge, oh yes he will, on such an insolent being!

PK2748

So if someone could remove the sideburns and the bow, add a goatee, I'd really appreciate it. Make it a gnome more than a halfling and its what I am looking for

Vallmyr

ussnorway said:

one of my fav gnomes is the bard... this is perhaps the first gnome image and still holds its head high

D&D allows their use for gaming but not retail

That's Lem, the halfling Bard from the Pathfinder comics.

Though there is Lini.



You can use my Gnome portraits if you want (Drawn by @Kema )

Piro is canonly a Gnome Bard and later a Bard/Shadowdancer.

Piro

Random Gnomes. I preemptively apologize that I don't have the artist names on hand. It's 2am here but tomorrow I'll try to go through and reverse google to find as many artists as I can. Also yes, I do have an obsession with female shorties.

JumboWheat01

Gods, some of those Warcraft Gnomes are just too bloody cute. Makes me miss the game and the Gnome Punting Championship.

Buttercheese

Gnome Welder by MariusBota


Gnome mercenary by MarschelArts


Unstable Reactor by 1oshuart


Gnome Artificer by Vablo


Hobbit by JonHodgson


Ghobb by charro-art


Nikselpik by I-GUYJIN-I

PK2748

Not sure his to say this and avoid offense, but most of those portraits posted by Vallmyr just look like elves to me or maybe half elves. I understand this is an edition issue I guess but gnomes are related to dwarves not elves. I'm sure this is why there are so few great portraits for the race. Nobody even agreed what they are

Buttercheese

I think the problem is that in folklore and mythology dwarves, elves and gnomes are basically the same thing and/or interchangable. Well, or in modern fanatasy literature certain aspects simply are falsely assigned.

You wanna know what "garden gnomes" are called in their country of origin? Garden dwarves.
And in germanic folklore elves are small cheeky assholes who live in forests and steal babies.

For the longest time I couldn't stand the idea of gnomes in D&D because they are not nearly as well defined as any of the other races.

D&D is a god damn incoherent mess that makes no sense no matter from what angle you look at it.
Imo the best way is too find your own personal headcanons and roll with them.

JumboWheat01

Buttercheese said:

I think the problem is that in folklore and mythology dwarves, elves and gnomes are basically the same thing and/or interchangable. Well, or in modern fanatasy literature certain aspects simply are falsely assigned.

You wanna know what "garden gnomes" are called in their country of origin? Garden dwarves.
And in germanic folklore elves are small cheeky assholes who live in forests and steal babies.

For the longest time I couldn't stand the idea of gnomes in D&D because they are not nearly as well defined as any of the other races.

D&D is a god damn incoherent mess that makes no sense no matter from what angle you look at it.
Imo the best way is too find your own personal headcanons and roll with them.

It also doesn't help that gnomes are practically re-designed every single edition. Dwarves? Elves? Half-orcs? They're pretty static throughout the editions. Halflings have lost their more blatant hobbit traits, but they're still pretty recognizable. Gnomes on the other hand...

Buttercheese

JumboWheat01 said:

Halflings have lost their more blatant hobbit traits, but they're still pretty recognizable.

That also annoys me a lot. I like that Pathfinder went back to the roots though, with the hairy feat 'n all.

PK2748

Yeah, I stick to 1st and 2nd edition TSR products and other than Dragonlance, I think Gnomes are a fairly coherent and consistent species and initially were closer to Paracelsus suggested as more elemental beings. I think Elves are derived from sidhe and Irish folklore, Dwarves are more Germanic and Norse. And yes, Halflings are just Hobbits. When you say they are the same thing you're not drawing from as many mythologies as Gyax and Arneson robbed to get their races for play.