how do I grind for XP?
bradu
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I've really been struggling with the game lately. Just entering Dragon's Eye level 3 and get slaughtered in the first encounter. I look up some youtube walkthroughs, and one thing I'm noticing is that the people doing the walkthroughs seem to have much more powerful groups than mine.
My whole group is lv 6-8. But I don't know how to gain more levels, the game is pretty linear. I mean I'm sure I missed a quest here or there, but how do I dink around to gain levels and XP? I've already cleared out all the areas before this I think. Is there a place to find random encounters or dungeons or something like that I'm missing?
My whole group is lv 6-8. But I don't know how to gain more levels, the game is pretty linear. I mean I'm sure I missed a quest here or there, but how do I dink around to gain levels and XP? I've already cleared out all the areas before this I think. Is there a place to find random encounters or dungeons or something like that I'm missing?
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I generally think that Dragons Eye is the least pleasant moment in the game.
Anyway, my party is a bit weak on spellcasting, but I'm having fun with them:
Half Orc Barbarian
Dwarven Defender
Cleric/Fighter
Archer
Assassin
Bard
So you could fight a couple mobs on HoF then lower difficulty or fight more mobs by abusing rest/respawns.
A "cheaper" alternative is to bump the game to Heart of Fury mode just before completing each quest, so you get HoF's x2 quest XP without actually making the game more difficult to complete.
An intermediate approach is to complete each area on normal difficulty, save the game, then rest in Heart of Fury mode and see if you are capable of beating the monsters that spawn. If you can, then that will be a good place for you to farm XP (by repeating the process as many times as desired).
Or if you don't want to change difficulty levels, take Redrake's advice. Valley of the Shadows is a good place to farm XP on normal difficulty.
I have no idea if EE fixed that or not, but when discussing the nature of the bone dancers, you could say that they are evil and that this is only your opinion and this would lead to conversation once again allowing him to ask about the nature of bone dancers. Each time you say is only your opinion you got around 3225 xp (in normal difficulty).
Or even better, Ctrl-Y every enemy in sight, to give you some room to breath...
With that said... your cleric makes your team a party of seven rather than of six. So you'll need to get creative to overcome the gap (and it's only going to get wider from here - Looking at you, Lower Dorn's Deep).
What level and alignment is your Cleric?
What spells does your Bard know?
What wands do you have?
Do you have anyone with Axe specialization?
Does your Assassin favor Backstabs, Trapping, or Utility Use?
NB: While I understand the... general dislike of Dragon's Eye, it's very XP rich. Very good place to dual-class characters if you plan to do so at level 7, especially if you get it just right and hit level 7 before B2F.
For killing those Wights the best thing to remember is to not rely on ranged weapons. Equip them all with magical melee weapons, including the archer. At this point you won't have many magical bolts or arrows so, why waste normal missiles on wights immune to them?
Alternatively, the bard can also just spend the time singing.
However, it is too bad there's no paladin in the group. A paladin can challenge Presio to a duel and avoid a needless heavy fight at the end.
Also sometimes turn unded might work.
The bard should be able to cast fireball, though.
My tactical suggestion would be to avoid standing and fighting. Use the terrain to create bottlenecks and always have an avenue to retreat. Distract the enemy with summons or spells as necessary. As long as your whole party doesn't get slaughtered you will always be able to come back. Don't fall into the hero trap. Many enemies are undead anyway, and as we all know dead men tell no tales .
It deserved a straight answer. Not an advice on how to cheat.
We each play the game how we like it. True. But an advice to just cheat is not an answer at all. You're better off just not answering at all.
I would disagree slightly on the question of cheating, as if XP exists as a potentially unlimited resource that can be mined at near zero risk for the player through the process of grinding then grinding itself becomes close to 'cheating' in the XP via the console in my opinion- the difference is that the player has *worked* for it by spending time farming herds of poor lesser spotted Yetis rather than taken a shortcut. Ultimately it depends on whether a player enjoys the repetitive process of grinding itself if risk is more or less absent- though I suppose there are ways to farm XP which still have a certain amount of risk if you are willing to play around with the difficulty slider.
We each have our own opinions, but an opinion which basically is just a slap, is no opinion at all.
There's enough EXP in Dragon's Eye to hit level 7 (possibly even for a party of 7) before Yxunomei - I had a bunch of single class fighters (and an assassin) dual halfway down and they had already reached levels 4/5 in their new classes by the time we hit Yxie. You just need to use everything you have - you don't need fourth level spells for her (and frankly most of the time they're wasted against her magic resistance anyway).
LoB enemies grant extra exp; if you find a handful of rest interrupts that you can beat while LoB is active, you can farm that.
LoB also grants extra exp on quest completion; if you have any unfinished sidequests you can squeeze a few more out of that.
Failing that, there's always the old standbys of export/import and the console.
Anyway, the Ziggurat chamber was by far the hardest battle I've had. I only had 1 3rd level mage spell, so I used fireball, whereas the playthroughs I saw on youtube usually used recitation AND haste AND one if not two fireballs. This battle was just super, super hard for me.
But I got through the rest of it and just now got back to Kuldahar and find it's been taken over by gnolls or whatever. I've decided I didn't really need to grind and wasn't really far behind on XP, it was just a tough spot in the game that my party wasn't great for.
Yetis give less xp and are harder imo, stick with cold wights.