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How do I utilize the druid's hide skills?

11302101130210 Member Posts: 381
in General Discussions NWN:EE
With a thief, it's easy to understand because I can get a natural boost to backstabbing. But is there a point to hide when I'm a druid?

Can someone explain this to me?

Does the druid obtain any benefit to hiding, or is this just for a way to scout areas?

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  • themazingnessthemazingness Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 702
    I believe you posted in the wrong place. Planescape:Torment doesn't have druids.

    I know in DDO Druids got sneak bonus damage, but I think that is 3.5 rules. I think it is just for scouting, though somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
  • jsavingjsaving Member Posts: 1,083
    edited December 2017
    I assume he means rangers, who do have stealth even though they aren't in PST? The answer is no, you don't receive a damage boost from stealth if you are a ranger. But you do still benefit from stealth if you're using melee weapons as you can enter melee range undetected, whereas without stealth you could be hit by arrows/spells while running up to an enemy.
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  • 11302101130210 Member Posts: 381
    themazingness said:

    I believe you posted in the wrong place. Planescape:Torment doesn't have druids.

    I know in DDO Druids got sneak bonus damage, but I think that is 3.5 rules. I think it is just for scouting, though somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

    Oops! Yup, I accidentally posted in the wrong place. I could have sworn I thought it was the NWN forum.
  • 11302101130210 Member Posts: 381
    Hey @Davide , I accidentally placed this into the wrong discussion area. Could you please place this into the NWN general discussion thread?

    Ty.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    Hey there . Aside from the obvious (*to hide*) you wish to know how , as a combat tactic, druids can benefit from hide bonus?

    I've got some suggestions:
    (1) to have your henchman or summon take the lead - enemies will attack your ally instead of you, so you can attack far from the frontlines and cast spells.
    (2) to take the first shot - no backstabs but taking the first shot is Always useful.
    (3) to scout - depending on the difficulty of the module you're playing , being able to scout is quite helpful
    (4) to multiclass to thief of assassin and take advantage of your trackless step!
  • DavideDavide Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 1,698
    1130210 said:

    Hey @Davide , I accidentally placed this into the wrong discussion area. Could you please place this into the NWN general discussion thread?

    Ty.

    Sure. Done. :smile:
  • JarrakulJarrakul Member Posts: 2,029
    I believe you still get an attack bonus (or some equivalent) to your first attack leaving stealth. So it's something. Not much, though.
  • MordaedilMordaedil Member Posts: 56
    Well, you won't be attacked as long as you're not detected? Rogues don't need to use stealth any more than you do however, they just need a "flank" to get sneak attacks.
  • ThorssonThorsson Member Posts: 190
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    Mordaedil said:

    Well, you won't be attacked as long as you're not detected? Rogues don't need to use stealth any more than you do however, they just need a "flank" to get sneak attacks.

    However they can only get flank if the opponent is focused elsewhere, e.g. being attacked by something else, and if you do a bunch of damage that focus shifts and you lose your flanking - which is why HiPS is so useful to them.

    Back to the OP, the Wiki has this to say, and this may be the root of your question:

    Druid levels can be a good fit for a stealthy build, even though they get neither hide nor move silently as class skills. Their trackless step feat (druid level 3) gives a +4 bonus to stealth skills in wilderness areas, and the following spells also enhance these skills (in all areas, not just wilderness): camouflage gives +10 to hide (druid level 1), one with the land gives +4 to hide and move silently (druid level 3), and mass camouflage gives +10 to hide (druid level 7).

    However, you will note that this only gives you a maximum of +8 to Move Silently and Druids do not have these as class skills. Therefore to be a decent sneaker you will have to cross class.
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