Would you like to implement a function to use custom images in NWN: EE for Palyer characters?

HunterRayder93

One of the problems of NWN and that if I use a custom image, if I play in multyplayer the other players can not see it unless they download the exact image you use to see it in play, for this I would like to propose a system to import custom images and let them be seen by other players.


actually this possibility in NWN already exists but it is very complex and above all it requires to use a determinatotype of file that is only available if you use programs like Photoshop, here is a video of how you can create a personalized image.

https://youtu.be/QaRrglfVemI

what I ask is that if you can not only create custom player images with files easier and more accessible, but also to ensure that images can be seen by other players without having the images in their possession, simple no?

HunterRayder93

here you see how the custom image appears in play

https://youtu.be/zEFvrOGTcTU

Phenomen

No. Players should never be able to use their own custom portraits. They may submit it to include into PW hak / override but using custom images without moderation is a great way to get adult, gore and OOC images all over your PW.

Right now you can use any portrait you want but only you will see it and it's totally ok and should stay that way.

HunterRayder93

Phenomen said:

No. Players should never be able to use their own custom portraits. They may submit it to include into PW hak / override but using custom images without moderation is a great way to get adult, gore and OOC images all over your PW.

Right now you can use any portrait you want but only you will see it and it's totally ok and should stay that way.

mine and an idea to make the system "less cumbersome" and clear that if you insert strong or violent and clear images that the ideal would be to implement an option to disable certain images, but for me the image of the PG must be important, do not allow me to personalize my image I never liked and have to contact the moderators of a PW to use the "my image" that I want to use to include in a package where others can use my image I do not really like, if the my image and personal because I have to make sure that others can use it, it should be like in forums, you can see the images of other users but you can not use them.

Thorsson

It should be available in SP, but MP I can see all sorts of difficulties. As I cannot see an option in this poll to say SP only I just clicked no.

HunterRayder93

Thorsson said:

It should be available in SP, but MP I can see all sorts of difficulties. As I cannot see an option in this poll to say SP only I just clicked no.

sorry do you mean by SP @Thorsson ? can you explain yourself better? if you mean a different type of format and what I also meant, I repeat I'm proposing to make it easier to use personalized images for the players, like for BG here, but also using simpler and more affordable formats.

I also want to remember that not everyone is a modder, there are also random players playing NWN, pretending that everyone is able to install a mod or Hack and wrong, the community of NWN is not just made up of nerd fanatics of modding, take refuge behind the excuse "look at the instructions" and "just follow the steps2 is useless, we have the opportunity to make sure that this NWN can become something better than how and now, say" and no I prefer it to stay as it " you're not motivating me to buy a game that does not have anything new, so different than just bug fixes and that's it? It has new graphic options but nothing.

So for discussions such as this must be carefully examined, without making too many hasty conclusions, also because ... and good education first ask and then respond.

Thorsson

SP = Single Player, i.e. it affects no-one else. On a server you're just creating opportunities for someone to abuse things and where there exists an opportunity it will get used.

HunterRayder93

Thorsson said:

SP = Single Player, i.e. it affects no-one else. On a server you're just creating opportunities for someone to abuse things and where there exists an opportunity it will get used.

I wanted to make a general speech, however, you can do basic for the SP, but the option for the PW and multy in general can be different, in short, have a little understanding of mine and a general speech I wanted to do.

The idea was still to bring this discussion visible on Triello and then if it was to create a further discussion on the triello board forum to understand how to implement this function, and clear that, if you still want to make sure that you play in Multy le images must be monitored the system must be designed differently from the SP.

Thorsson

It's something that would be a long way down my list of changes - I'd rather just improve/increase the options in the game.

HunterRayder93

Thorsson said:

It's something that would be a long way down my list of changes - I'd rather just improve/increase the options in the game.

I do not believe @Thorsson that is too long, the simplest thing to do and make it similar to the BG and IWD series, which allows you to have an option to import custom images.

EchoDM

Phenomen said:

No. Players should never be able to use their own custom portraits. They may submit it to include into PW hak / override but using custom images without moderation is a great way to get adult, gore and OOC images all over your PW.

Right now you can use any portrait you want but only you will see it and it's totally ok and should stay that way.

As an admin on a PW that allows players to use custom portraits, I cannot recall a time where we've ever had a player use an inappropriate image. We have made those custom portraits available (via our forums) to players who want to add them into their library. If a player violates the rules for portraits (adult content, whatever), then the character can be deleted. If it repeats, the player can be removed/banned, because they clearly do not have respect for your PW/server.

As to the poll, I'd like adding these custom portraits to be easier to do, but not fully mandatory (ie, auto-downloaded) to prevent filling up my portraits folder with probably hundreds of portraits.

HunterRayder93

EchoDM said:

Phenomen said:

As to the poll, I'd like adding these custom portraits to be easier to do, but not fully mandatory (ie, auto-downloaded) to prevent filling up my portraits folder with probably hundreds of portraits.

I thought something similar to forums or social networks, when you see the potho profiles of other users do not need to download the image by force, I thought of something like that.

Taro94

I think it would be cool if character portraits were included in character files. This would allow players to show off their custom portraits, while at the same time not clustering portrait directories of other players. Another plus would be players being able to show their custom portraits without sharing them (i.e. I can understand a desire to have your character's portrait be exclusive to that very character and this solution would allow it).

The worry that people would use this feature to show others some obscene or ooc content is unfounded, I think. People can already say and do obscene and ooc stuff, this is just another medium for them to do so. And I seriously doubt there would be many players wanting to troll online servers by logging in with porn images as their portraits just for the sake of it. A looming threat of a permaban for doing that would keep them at bay.

As for these few players who would occassionally see something like this before the deliquent is banned - well, you can't really play any online game expecting never being forced to deal with harassment or obscenity. That's why there are notes about online experience not being rated in virtually every game. It's not something you can defeat (or even limit to any significant extent) by not letting people have any avatar they want. I don't see online forums, Steam or GOG forbidding people to use unapproved avatars.

I personally think including portrait files in characters themselves would a step in the direct direction.

PaddyMaxson

Phenomen said:

No. Players should never be able to use their own custom portraits. They may submit it to include into PW hak / override but using custom images without moderation is a great way to get adult, gore and OOC images all over your PW.

Right now you can use any portrait you want but only you will see it and it's totally ok and should stay that way.

Could just have a "no custom images" option for your PW.

MadHatter

There's a console command to quickly turn a jpg in your portrait's folder into a portrait:

Open the console:
ConvertPortrait FILENAME

Ex:
ConvertPortrait elftastic

(No .jpg on the console command)

HunterRayder93

MadHatter said:

There's a console command to quickly turn a jpg in your portrait's folder into a portrait:

Open the console:
ConvertPortrait FILENAME

Ex:
ConvertPortrait elftastic

(No .jpg on the console command)

the problem and as already explained, I wanted to propose a "less complicated" way to use custom images ... go looking for comani or other strange things, for a player who does not know where to get his hands and a problem and only risks ruining the his system files, with my proposal instead I want to ensure that a simpler and more accessible way to all is implemented.

FreshLemonBun

I don't think that downloading and extracting an archive of portraits into an aptly named portraits folder makes anyone an extreme nerd or tech aficionado but that's just me. Maybe there are some that are old middle aged players and have trouble but most ppl I know understand how to use a computer, it's like knowing how to read, cook, or maybe drive a car. Even friends whose families didn't allow a PC at home had one at school and then quickly learned at college, because you need computer skills to even go to school these days.

Maybe they could just use jpeg by default but I'm not sure how to make it more simple than copy/paste or download/extract all.

PaddyMaxson

If it's possible and doesn't take time from other more important requested features, why not?

With the Caveat that Multiplayer servers have a tickbox for "No custom portraits"

FreshLemonBun

Persistent worlds use the most custom portraits but they don't force show every custom portrait. You download a package from a portrait pack, the server's own pack or a friend's portrait but you're not forced to see any troll picture that someone trying to cause trouble uses that day.

AnonySimon

For single-player games, I would like the process of using custom portraits streamlined to be much easier than it already is. Regarding multiplayer, I would like to see the server host be able to easily provide approved custom portraits that anyone can see. That way, if an individual player has a portrait that they wish to use, they must send it to the server host and have it uploaded (if they want others to be able to see it).

I would also like to see the option for PW hosts to limit what portraits a character may use (I can imagine games where you might want to limit the portrait choices to where they must all choose the same portrait or must choose a portrait from a list of 5).

ATalsen

For PWs and other multiple player environments the option to download someone's custom portrait would be nice, but it really needs to be opt-in on an individual portrait basis, along with the ability to remove said portrait with an easy click, due to the potential for any given player-created portrait to be objectionable.

Without the opt-in and easy removal, I'd rather NOT see any portraits downloadable.