Additional Demihuman Class & Multi Options

RAM021

It is high time Demihumans were corrected to adhere to their proper options. The 2.5 update is the time to do this.

DEMIHUMANS OF THE REALMS:
Elf Druids
Elf Cleric/Mage

Dwarf Cleric/Thief
Dwarf Ranger


DEMIHUMAN DEITIES:
Dwarf Cleric/Thief

Elf Druids
Elf Cleric/Thief
Elf Fighter/Cleric/Thief
Elf Cleric/Ranger

Half-Elf Ranger/Druid
Half-Elf Fighter/Mage/Druid
Half-Elf Druid/Mage

Halfling Druids
Halfling Cleric/Thief

*Ranger/Cleric explicitly allowed to use Ranger weapons


COMPLETE BARD:
Dwarf Skald
Halfling Jester
Gnome Jester

Loldrup

Has this been redmined?

Doubledimas

Loldrup said:

Has this been redmined?

No(t yet).

sarevok57

i think the reason why the races and the classes are the way they are is for more game balance, this issue has been talked about before

Matthieu

If we go PnP non human races have a lower level cap than humans too.

Loldrup

Now at Redmine:
https://support.baldursgate.com/issues/36860

BelegCuthalion

dunno ... i'd like to see this, but my balancing alarm rings high and bright when thinking about it.

definitely it would require new corrections in future patches to balance it, and thinking ahead into a time of no-more-patches, it might be left in an unbalanced state.

also, how many playable and non-playable NPCs would need adjustment to fit into these new options right, and what consquences would it have on challenges, AI, etc. etc.?

for a new game: hooray, do it!
for the old BG(:EE) heavy cruiser steering into the future: better not, or leave it to the modders.

ThacoBell

@BelegCuthalion I am continually baffled by people's insistence on balance. Mages and bards can do near literally everything, Berserkers just decide to ignore every disable in the game, Dwarves exist, etc.

I want mah demihumans.

Zaghoul

Heh, since were on wish lists, I want my humanoids dadgumit (talk about gettin the short end of the stick). Thank goodness for EEKeeper.

ThacoBell

Kobold, goblin, ogre, and gnoll charnames unite!

RAM021

Loldrup said:

Now at Redmine:
https://support.baldursgate.com/issues/36860

Thank you!

RAM021

BelegCuthalion said:

dunno ... i'd like to see this, but my balancing alarm rings high and bright when thinking about it.

definitely it would require new corrections in future patches to balance it, and thinking ahead into a time of no-more-patches, it might be left in an unbalanced state.

also, how many playable and non-playable NPCs would need adjustment to fit into these new options right, and what consquences would it have on challenges, AI, etc. etc.?

The game is not balanced currently; nor are any of these proposed options overpowered.

Dragonfolk2000

I think it would be more efficient to save this sort of thing for Baldur's Gate 3. Any time new race or class things are added it means updating all dialogue where this sort of thing comes up or matters. There's a moment in Baldur's Gate 1 where the I was referred to as a 'kind and good hearted swashbuckler/mage'.