Recent occurrence with the NESS spawning system
Quilistan
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My players noticed a few days ago, just BEFORE the latest patch 8162 (march 2nd patch). That if they drag a creature out of the area it spawned in and they kill it. It will immediately re spawn in its normal area (ignoring the spawn delay set on its Flag).
This can be a huge exploit where Boss Creatures are worth more XP.
Killing it in the area it spawned in. It will work completely normal, following the spawn delay I have set on its flag.
Is anyone else using NESS, seeing this issue?
Any Ideas on what to check (besides the flag settings, which are correct)
This can be a huge exploit where Boss Creatures are worth more XP.
Killing it in the area it spawned in. It will work completely normal, following the spawn delay I have set on its flag.
Is anyone else using NESS, seeing this issue?
Any Ideas on what to check (besides the flag settings, which are correct)
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I may do some tests with it then.
that is one we test and then
SP_IS1_SN01_SD40_RG50M25C80_CD90T1R7
here is another we tested
both have the issue, and this used to never happen. These are old tried and true areas on my PW.
Anyways i will check this out since i want to use NESS in my PW as well.
But it may take a few days.
SP_IS1_SN01_SD5_RG50M25C80_CD90T1R7
See attached testmodule.
I have NOT touch any scripts in quite sometime, and everything was working correctly as of a few weeks ago. I know for a fact because I specifically remember fighting one of these creatures is exactly this manner about 3 weeks ago (it was a memorable fight for my character
Any ideas as to what to look at?
It seems the ness system isn't recognizing the creature as its child once it dies outside spawning area. I did check to see if it had to die or not. Simply taking it outside does NOT respawn the new one inside. Killing it outside its area does cause a instant respawn of the creature in its normal spawn location.
What NESS version are you using?
I tested with 8.1.3
Did you add the addon "HerMyT's Visual Encounter Tables (HVE)" to NESS?
I didn't
Did you ever modify any NESS scripts other than the cfg and _sc_ scripts?
Do you have any NESS onspawn, ondeath or heartbeat scripts running for that one boss waypoint?
I know your waypoints are not flagged with using scripts, but maybe you are running something else somewhere else?
I can't reproduce this error, even with the old NESS 7.0 version.
I drag the mob over to another zone, kill it there, zone back to the waypoint and nothing respawns until the set time/minutes with SDn.
Tested in Singleplayer and with running a Server i connected to.
I am tying to go back and remember everything I did in the last two weeks. Just finished checking the enter/exit scripts for the newer areas I created, they all look good. Checking a few new spawn flags that were added now. I deleted them, and will test on the next server reset.
Going WAY WAY back I think I remember reading about this issue coming up for someone before, I wish all the old forums and stuff still existed to search.
OnEnter:
spawn_smpl_onen2
OnExit:
spawn_smpl_onext
I noticed in the test mod you made if we change these and remove the heartbeat script, we don't get the autorespawn, but for me the Corpse is not getting proccessed unless I transition areas and then return back to the corpse
edit:
I just tried changing
OnEnter:
spawn_smpl_onent
and it seem to work normal. Going to test this in my PW now.
edit:
that did not work any different. Problem still persists.
NEW problem that came up. I am now getting "remains" left behind on all creatures killed. This is also causing items to duplicate. So if a giant dropped a certain flail you can loot the corpse, then the corpse decays and you will get the "certain flail" in the remains.
tag is set up with CD60T1R7
R7 should be NO remains
I made a custom goblin with blueprint and TAG of "test"
set the flail to dropable.
Flag set to : SP_IS1_SN1_SD5_RG50M25C80_CD30T1R7
you can loot the corpse, AND it still drops remains that you can loot (duplicating the flail)
That's why you get a bag after the corpse decays.
Check out R7_fix.zip (.erf) with the changes i have made, import and compile, use at your own risk:
As long you didn't make any changes to spawn_cfg_cusflg you can overwrite everything.
I have only made changes to "spawn_corpse_dcy" and "spawn_functions".
But exporting to .erf included 3 more files.
I am going to try it with your remains fix suggestion next. I noticed this digging through the code yesterday, but I am really, really rough on scipting (not to meantion several years out of practice). I didn't want to touch the code, lol. Thank you for going through this with me.
I mean, did you make sure to not override your _cfg and _sc scripts?
Overriding theese with the ones from v8.1.3 will for sure break up many things since you prolly did set up a lot of custom stuff there (camps, group spawns, patrol, death scripts etc.).
Another idea would be sending me all your NESS scripts of your PW.
That way i can test it with your version of NESS.
Don't worry about your custom made NESS stuff, they won't be of any use for me since i am using an heavinly modified/changed/improved NESS version on my own PW.
Did you compile/build scrips after import?
With what "version" of NESS scripts were you testing now?
This is the version that is working well though, OTHER than it forgetting the creature spawn when it dies in a different area. I am also pretty darn sure that was even working ok a few weeks ago.
edit: yes I did compile
We missed 2 scripts for onclosecrp and dist_corps:
Added the scripts, so in total i changed 4 scripts:
- spawn_corpse_dcy
- spawn_dist_corps
- spawn_functions
- spawn_onclosecrp
I didn't touch any spawn related stuff in NESS.
Or do you meant the beamdog patches? They really didn't mess up either.
To me it looks like you were using an completly different/modified NESS version in your PW.
If you are not sure what version of NESS you were using years back then DO NOT override/update with any NESS version.
Again, please send me your NESS scripts of your PW so we can bring this to an end, otherwise we will write 1000 messages back and forth here
I am going to reinstall my game, to cover that end. Then test both versions of NESS I have.
if needed: I will then get the spawn scripts I have in an erf for you. I think it is a version prior to the current on on the vault.
Luckily I have been keeping backups the past couple of months.
Custom gobbo has his flail set as droppable.
after all this.....
I got your fix in.
I notice when doing a full build on the Module with the new NESS scripts + your fix, that a few of the scripts were coming up with compile errors. Your test module did not have errors, of course.
So I did a build with scripts only, and everything seemed to compile correctly.
My PW server has been running for 2 hours now, correctly. I will post back here a bit later to let you know if it is still running stable after a longer period of time.
The Kingdom of Balarand thanks you for your service!
I used it on a NWN2 world also, actually got a "random encounter system" working with it also. I might have to reload that game to dig up those scripts to see how the heck it was working. I remember it being a huge pain in the butt. Might have been you that helped me do that? I honestly can't remember.
going to leave mine up as long as its free to me (I think I have the credits through 2019)
Cheers,
-Loudent
That fix should be shown on the vault too, so it could be reached for all the others, that don't read here