Dualing Xzar into Ft?

leddyhs

Isn't it possible with Manual of Gainful Exercise upping his STR to 15?

Mungri

No you need 17 str to dual to a fighter, as with any other classes primary stat.

leddyhs

Oww, alright. So you can make a pure with less than 17, but you have to have 17 to dual into?

Mungri

Yes. Not just that, but you need 15 in your primary stat. To dual from a mage you need 15 int plus 17 str for a fighter, 17 dex for rogue, or 17 wis for cleric.

leddyhs

+2 insightful to you good sir.

elminster

Mungri said:

Yes. Not just that, but you need 15 in your primary stat. To dual from a mage you need 15 int plus 17 str for a fighter, 17 dex for rogue, or 17 wis for cleric.

Or 15 strength, 17 wisdom and 17 charisma if you are dualing into a druid from a fighter (sorry, had to point it out though it has nothing to do with the OPs original question).

Mungri

Yes but you can't dual a mage into a druid, only a fighter.

Oxford_Guy

As @Quartz recently point out, you can dual him to a thief or a cleric with the appropriate tome, though...

leddyhs

@oxfordguy

That might be a good idea.. Hmms!

Mungri

Dualing him to a cleric at level 6 mage is a popular choice as he can still reach the max cleric level possible with BG1s experience cap. Then you have a cleric with magic missiles and fireballs.

Quartz

Yeah.

Xzar - Given Dexterity Tome
Shoot for Necromancer 7/Thief 8.
Don't go over Level 7 under any circumstances in this case, of course.

Given Wisdom Tome
Shoot for Necromancer 6/Cleric 8.
It is important you do NOT wait longer than Level 6 or he will never get his mage skills back.

leddyhs

I like the thief option, but I'm concerned for the thac0. Does the stre spell still stack all the way to 18/00 in bgee?

Oxford_Guy

leddyhs said:

I like the thief option, but I'm concerned for the thac0. Does the stre spell still stack all the way to 18/00 in bgee?

Can a non-fighter get 18/00 (or even 18/50) strength with the Strength spell?

The_New_Romance

Oxford_Guy said:

leddyhs said:

I like the thief option, but I'm concerned for the thac0. Does the stre spell still stack all the way to 18/00 in bgee?

Can a non-fighter get 18/00 (or even 18/50) strength with the Strength spell?

18/50 is what Strength gives you. It seems to be bugged, though, and gives you 18/00 after two castings or in case you had higher than 18/50 naturally before the first cast.