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Gnomes Max Wisdom incorrectly set to 16, should be 17

IchigoRXCIchigoRXC Member Posts: 1,001
edited December 2012 in Fixed
When I create a Gnome (any class/sex) my max wisdom is 16, when I am sure it should be 17.
+1 intelligence -1 Wisdom would leave scores of 19 max Int and 17 max Wis.
Can anyone verify it is not just me and if I am wrong please let me know.
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  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,054
    edited November 2012
    I noticed this too. And it's not like the dwarven CHA malus where the racial max is 17 which then has the penalty applied. Gnomes have a racial max of 18. 18-1 = 17.

    So in short.

    [BUG] Gnomes are having a -2 penalty applied to their Wisdom score upon creation.

    [EXPECTED BEHAVIOUR] To only have a -1 penalty applied upon creation
  • AbcoeAbcoe Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2012
    Gnomes should have a racial adjustment of -1 Wisdom, but the max I can get is only 16
    Post edited by Zeckul on
  • awin123awin123 Member Posts: 55
    Had this same error, Gnome has a max of 16 Wisdom at character creation.
  • MurrayConfederacyMurrayConfederacy Member Posts: 188
    I thought this was normal?
  • awin123awin123 Member Posts: 55
    MurrayConfederacy said:

    I thought this was normal?

    How does a -1 Wisdom racial penalty translating into a max value of 16 make any sense when the normal max value is 18?

    18 - 1 =/= 16

    Do the math...

  • SkydreeSkydree Member Posts: 36
    Unless this means the penalty is now two. Hopefully that translates to a intelligence bonus of two?

    That'd be sweet. :)
  • SkydreeSkydree Member Posts: 36
    Judging from their own pdf manuals, it is supposed to be -1. I guess I won't roll my gnome tonight, just to be sure.
  • jdejde Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2012
    The description for gnomes state that they get +1 intelligence and -1 wisdom. Doesn't this mean that the maximum wisdom score for a gnome should be 17? During character creation I can only put up to 16 points into wisdom. Has anyone else experienced this?
    Post edited by Balquo on
  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    up
  • MedillenMedillen Member Posts: 632
    Merged topic
  • jaldenjalden Member Posts: 44
    edited November 2012
    Behavior: Gnomes cannot be created with a wisdom higher than 16.

    Expected Behavior: For gnomes to only have a -1 to wisdom(max 17) as is stated in both the original and new baldur's gate manuals.

    OS: This bug was verified on both windows xp and windows 7.
    Post edited by Balquo on
  • DinoDino Member Posts: 291
    Yes, having the same issue. Might have to pick another race... Gnomes are already under represented. Please fix, shouldnt be too hard.
  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,054
    If you are desperate to play a gnome you can always CLUA your extra point of wisdom or even Shadowkeeper them.

    For the record, gnomes may be unrepresented but mechanically in BG they are one of the strongest races.
  • SkydreeSkydree Member Posts: 36
    Bumping this. I know it won't be a priority with all the present issues, but still, it's a technicality that should be addressed!
  • jaldenjalden Member Posts: 44
    I have this same bug on both windows xp and windows 7.
  • ZeckulZeckul Member Posts: 1,036
    Moved to Bugs-BGEE.
  • jaldenjalden Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2012
    Skydree said:

    Judging from their own pdf manuals, it is supposed to be -1. I guess I won't roll my gnome tonight, just to be sure.

    Yeah. The bgee manual even states that it's only minus one. Should I wait to play a cleric/illusionist? I'm 100% positive that I made 17 wisdom illusionist/clerics in both bg1 and bg2.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    The wisdom for gnomes should be 17. That is both the case in the 2nd edition PnP charts (adjusted for race) and in the original Baldur's Gate.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    edited December 2012
    @Zeckul, merge: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/7471/gnomes-max-wisdom-incorrectly-set-to-16-should-be-17#latest

    Edit: Nvm, can do it myself now.
  • jaldenjalden Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2012
    I bumped my illusionist/cleric's wisdom to 17 using shadowkeeper. The instructions that I used to get shadowkeeper running can be found in the link below.

    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/comment/156451/#Comment_156451
  • MedillenMedillen Member Posts: 632
    merged threads
  • KeithSKeithS Member Posts: 623
    Will be fixed for the next patch.
  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,054
    This can be moved to the fixed list - gnomes can now attain 17 Wisdom upon creation.
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