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17 STR, Manual of Strength, and Exceptional Strength

PhilhelmPhilhelm Member Posts: 473
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What happens if a Warrior with a STR of 17 reads the Manual of Strength? How will the exceptional strength percentage be determined? Will it be automatically set to 18/00, be randomized at the time of reading the tome, or would it be based on what the character would have had if given an 18 STR during character creation?

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  • WardWard Member Posts: 1,305
    18/00
  • PhilhelmPhilhelm Member Posts: 473
    Thanks. I ran an online search and couldn't find the answer, but it was bugging me.
  • lummoxybezlummoxybez Member Posts: 33
    Really?
    I always thought that the % number was still generated as part of the chargen process, but wasn't displayed unless you were a warrior with 18 STR.
    Looking at a previous character in Shadowkeeper, I once har 17 STR and 77 for the % figure. Does it really increase to 00% with a 1-point increase in STR?
  • duergar85duergar85 Member Posts: 24
    lummoxybez said:

    Looking at a previous character in Shadowkeeper, I once har 17 STR and 77 for the % figure. Does it really increase to 00% with a 1-point increase in STR?

    If you have 18/xx, I guess the Manual will take you to 19 as usual...
    I could be wrong, tho...
  • WardWard Member Posts: 1,305
    @Quartz Are you sure? I could of sworn you go to 18/00.
  • PhilhelmPhilhelm Member Posts: 473
    Can the Warrior classes even have a pure 18 STR?
  • AzofixAzofix Member Posts: 8
    Bump.

    I've an interest in knowing. If it's a straight 18 it have a huge impact in my choice of race.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    duergar85 said:

    lummoxybez said:

    Looking at a previous character in Shadowkeeper, I once har 17 STR and 77 for the % figure. Does it really increase to 00% with a 1-point increase in STR?

    If you have 18/xx, I guess the Manual will take you to 19 as usual...
    I could be wrong, tho...
    It's correct. I had a 18/00 charname use the manual and it became 19.

  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    This is why you set it to 18 and then Tome it up to 19, which gives you a freakin' massive booster if you are going from a straight standard 18.
  • AHFAHF Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2013
    Halfling fighters are behind the 8 ball on this one.
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    Yeah, it kinda sucks for them. I mean, they can put it up to 19 in BG2 with Lum's Machine or the Hell Trials, but not only are those massively late-game, by that point you will have multiple STR 20+ belts, gloves, hammers, etc.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 366
    Iirc uf you have 17 str and you use the amnual you will get 18. Stop. No 18/x. Just a plain 18. If you have 18 or 18/x and use the manual you will get 19
  • AzofixAzofix Member Posts: 8
    Thanks fo the info. Loosing a bonus of 2 on THACO and 5 on damage just for the sake of playing Halfling compared to other races just seem stupid even in a roleplaying runthrough I would be massivly annoyed. But luckily one have many options.
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    You could always go halfling Barbarian or Cleric and use Rage or DUHM to bypass the strength penalty. You'll likely end up using them in most difficult fights anyway.
  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,387
    I love playing Halfling warriors! 19 strength gets soooo boring, a true warrior wins his battles with a 9 strength...
  • AHFAHF Member Posts: 1,376
    I am in the TOB stages of a Halfling Kensai run with BGT. The Kensai bonuses more than compensate for the strength limitations and the shorty save bonuses are definitely great (he was usable straight up against beholders with +2 ring of protection, the ring of gaxx and a save adding amulet).

    I made sure to have him wield two-handed swords (great for BG1/TOSC/Early BG2) and halberds (2nd half of SOA and TOB) for the fun of seeing the halfling using those weapons (looking forward to the Ravager halberd). Having true grandmastery would give additional cover.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 366
    Azofix said:

    Thanks fo the info. Loosing a bonus of 2 on THACO and 5 on damage just for the sake of playing Halfling compared to other races just seem stupid even in a roleplaying runthrough I would be massivly annoyed. But luckily one have many options.

    If it bothers you so much there are ways to get 18/00 or, in bg 2, far more

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