Black Pits - too hard, too fast? (Minor spoilers about a few enemies)

nyttyn

Preface: I have to say, the black pits have been pretty charming thus far. Especially the announcer.

But there's a huge issue. The difficulty absolutely [b]spikes[/b] once you reach the tier 2 fights. And by spikes I mean the necromancer fight was almost absurdly difficult. Took me like, three tries. The fight afterwards went pretty poorly too, with most of my party dying -thank goodness for autorez-, but then...dear goodness, the next fight seems just about impossible. If I try and get the mages down before they can cast spells I fail because they [b]will[/b] get their spells off, especially their invisbility and god knows what else as well as high damaging area nukes. Oh and then the fighters keep chopping me up, which means I have to focus on them because I can't cast anything at the casters but then the casters absolutely demolish me...

I just have to say, unless I'm making a real big obvious stupid, the difficulty of the black pits suddenly just threw me face first at a cliff and demanded I climb with my teeth.

Aasimar069

Do it with level 8 characters ^^

They won't laugh at you any longer

Fredjo

Let it be known that complains about difficult level being too high is only allowed on Blizzard and Bioware forums

FFG

nyttyn said:

Took me like, three tries.

three tries is nothing you're just smalltime

Cheesebelly

I beat today the second full party fight (from Tier 2 I believe, after the ogre fight). Thus far I haven't had many problems, some party members got knocked out, but that's not a death state as they get back to life after each fight.

Truly : Sleep, Web, Horror, Hold Person are all your friends. And keep either an inquisitor or Priest of Helm closeby, True Sight is a godsend (even though I never used it yet. I did abuse Seeker's Sword though)

Edit : Also, Agganazar's Scorcher (sp?) is your worst enemy. And I mean the ones that you cast. DON'T do it

ekster

Finally, a challenge!

Turning seemingly impossible fights into easy 'oh my god, that's all I had to do??' fights by constantly trying different tactics and changing my gameplay is what I love the most about old RPGs!

Dashiva

3 tries? I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic... but yeah, come back when you're at about 30 tries and I might believe that it's difficult.

Sejer666

I had an issue at level 14 where you fight the Shambling Mound and the 4 Clay Golems. From what I remember, you need enhanced weapons to damage the golems, but the ONLY thing that I could hurt them with was a 'Spiritual Hammer' from a cleric, which is +3 equivalent. Not even a weapon created from the 'Enhanced Weapon' mage spell (also +3) did damage.. there were some bug issues going on with keeping the enhanced weapons equipped too though, so that could have been why.

What else can I hurt the clay golems with?

Shrimp

I may think of the wrong kind of golem, but you may need a blunt weapon for those. Shambling Mounds are totally immune to blunt damage though, so you'll need some versatility in your weapon choices.

Lichi

Sejer666 said:

I had an issue at level 14 where you fight the Shambling Mound and the 4 Clay Golems. From what I remember, you need enhanced weapons to damage the golems, but the ONLY thing that I could hurt them with was a 'Spiritual Hammer' from a cleric, which is +3 equivalent. Not even a weapon created from the 'Enhanced Weapon' mage spell (also +3) did damage.. there were some bug issues going on with keeping the enhanced weapons equipped too though, so that could have been why.

What else can I hurt the clay golems with?

I killed golems with arorrow/bolt of bitting. I killed Mound with magic ring.

I have now stucked Fire Gint + 4 Fire Elementals. Elementals seem be immune my arrows.(Have 2 achers in my party)

Cheesebelly

I can confirm : Clay golems have 100% resistance to Slashing, Piercing and Missile as well as Magic >.<

Sarevokok

I never wiped on any wave, used a full custom party. A black guard with dual flails, fight/cleric, cleric, archer and two wild mages. Started off at level one with all of them. Using Core rules.

The two hardest wave for me was actually in teir 1 with the ton of hoblogins rangers, and then the fire giant. Ughhh that dude was a monster to take down, had to just kite him while turning around to cast magic missle until he went down.

Lichi

Ye, get is pass. But if you choose fight in end se dwars spanw forewer? I killed about 60 them before i died. Then tried again and spoken djienni immediadly. Get FIre Giant easily 2 greater malison and some arrow of polimorph.