Dialogue changed in EE edition? (Confirmed not true!)

ManFromTheFizz

I remember there was a 4channer awhile back that said Beamdog sjwed some of the dialogue such as Jaheira being too much of a nagging wife and one of the other playable characters being too much of a slut and that certain types of dialogue were censored for EE.

Can any OG pre-beamdog players confirm any of this?

Not trying to stir up and trouble (or name blame) just curious if this has any merit.

Balrog99

The NPC's weren't all that talkative in the original BG. I don't think Beamdog changed any of the original banters. Most of the flack they took was for the Siege of Dragonspear expansion content...

ManFromTheFizz

Balrog99 wrote: »

The NPC's weren't all that talkative in the original BG. I don't think Beamdog changed any of the original banters. Most of the flack they took was for the Siege of Dragonspear expansion content...

Which seems like a non-problem to me, Beamdog should have known what types of writers made Baldur's Gate what it is, but if there's a SJW in there as long as it isn't over the top or in your face I have no issues.

Have no fing clue why everyone made such a big huba about it.

Arvia

ManFromTheFizz wrote: »

I remember there was a 4channer awhile back that said Beamdog sjwed some of the dialogue such as Jaheira being too much of a nagging wife and one of the other playable characters being too much of a slut and that certain types of dialogue were censored for EE.

Can any OG pre-beamdog players confirm any of this?

Not trying to stir up and trouble (or name blame) just curious if this has any merit.

There's almost no original NPC banter in BG1. The stereotypes you mention were referring to the voice acting, for example of Jaheira and Safana, which some people called misogynistic. But the characters were generally exaggerated in their voice acting, Ajantis being a male example. They were all stereotypes. It was changed in BG2, where party interaction became more important.
The voiced lines of the original NPCs weren't changed for the EE, if memory serves.

Why people stirred up trouble about it? Frankly, because they can. Some people seem to find pleasure in trolling and starting flame wars. And many people ignore facts when it comes to that. It wasn't and isn't "everyone", and probably most people who made the biggest noise about it couldn't care less about actually playing the games.

ThacoBell

Beamdog were only allowed to fix spelling and grammar errors in original dialogue. They were never allowed to alter the original script.

I'm still baffled by the number of people who get up in arms when characters follow certain tropes. At what point did we decide that any kind of equality was not only bad, but that just talking about it was also bad?

ManFromTheFizz

ThacoBell wrote: »

Beamdog were only allowed to fix spelling and grammar errors in original dialogue. They were never allowed to alter the original script.

I'm still baffled by the number of people who get up in arms when characters follow certain tropes. At what point did we decide that any kind of equality was not only bad, but that just talking about it was also bad?

AWESOME!
Then it's settled let the conspiracy theories die!!!

masteraleph

I think they were allowed certain very small changes. The one I’m thinking of right now occurs in the Cloakwood, where a certain monstrous figure blames “Jon Icarus” for her condition in the original, and a changed last name in the EE. But that may have been an exception- the details she provides, including his wife being named Tanova, imply that he is in fact the villain from BG2 and that the name was changed later in BG2’s production.