Carolyn and Davis
atcDave
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Just starting my latest run through of the Bhaalspawn Saga, and thought I’d share the biographies I wrote for the two original characters I created.
I’ll start with a couple disclaimers. One, I’m not a power gamer! I don’t care if these characters aren’t “optimized”. My interest is in making them feel real. Like actual people. That said, I ran a similar pair a couple months back and these two should be slightly more powerful from a pure numbers perspective than the previous pair (who completed the game quite easily).
Two, these characters should be mostly legal. Apart from noting I assigned their scores in EEKeeper and gave no thought at all to what I rolled. So they are designed characters, but not illegal (meaning, it might have taken me a long time to roll these two! But there’s no reason I couldn’t have eventually done so). Davis will start at 4th level is the only “non-standard” issue I’m aware of.
Three, I do have tweaks mod, NPC Project, BG1 Unfinished Business, Skie: Cost of a Girl’s Soul, IWDification (just for the extra spells, no class tweaks) and a few other minor appearance/convenience related mods.
Carolyn has grown up as Gorion’s ward in Candlekeep. She’s always been best friends with Imoen, for many years they were the only kids around and they made the most of it. But she was more bookish than her buddy. From a young age she loved all the books and reading about pretty much everything. In her early teens she discovered a love for reading about the Gods, religion and all things metaphysical. For some reason, that was never clear to you, Gorion seemed nervous about this area of study. And make no mistake, you love the old man, the only parent you’ve ever known. So you’ve tried to honor his sensitivity and make sure your studies involved all the things he was more comfortable with you studying; like pure academics, math, sciences, literature, magic, history. With your own interests kept more on the DL.
Also, about four years ago, a new Sergeant of the Watchers came to Candlekeep. His name is Davis and he seems young for his position. He also seemed to be down all the time, so you and Imoen made it a mission to make him laugh and lighten up! It seemed to work, and you’ve been friends for years now.
About two years back Gorion decided you needed some sort of professional training so you could take care of yourself. You really want to be a cleric, but you knew Gorion would be upset with this choice so you decided you would be a Warrior! Funny. You’ve never been big, and you’d rather find a good book than work hard. But you took to it pretty easily. Gorion asked Davis to lead up your training. Which may have also helped your motivation, it turns out you really like having an excuse to spend more time with the young Paladin. You’ve heard from all your trainers that you’re stronger than they expect, you’re quick and *surprisingly* hardy. Your fighter training has gone well. You did make a point of training on Warhammers; because you knew, one day, you would be a Cleric of Lathander.
Today, Gorion made a surprise announcement that the two of you would be leaving Candlekeep! You don’t like this. The idea of leaving Imoen and Davis (!) makes you short of breath. This can’t be for long? What is going on, you’ve never left home before.
Carolyn is a Human Fighter, NG. 15/18/16/15/18/17. 99 total! Yeah I just EEKeepered that. Carolyn will otherwise be completely legal and will dual to Cleric at 7th level.
Davis has always wanted to be a Paladin. A champion of those who can’t defend themselves and defender of everything that is good. Growing up in Waterdeep with two parents who were devoted to Torm this was easy decision. Dad was a cleric and Mom a Paladin, they supported your choice completely. You excelled at training and never had any doubts. You participated in a couple of operations against bandits and slavers. And you met Her. She made your heart sing in a way it never had before, brought out the poet in you. Then came a big mission against a really twisted up gang of old Bane worshippers. Almost 50 of you went up against them. You won, but at a terrible cost. Only 20 of you came home. She wasn’t one of them. There wasn’t enough left of Her that could even be identified, never mind Raised.
You wasted a year drunk. You were removed from all responsibilities by the Temple. About four years ago you started coming out of it, some. You knew you didn’t want any more adventures, no more watching comrades fall. You heard about a library, a monastery, that was looking for permanent guards. Especially wanted were those with experience for Sergeant positions. You traveled to Candlekeep and got one of those jobs.
You’d heard of the place before, but it wasn’t what you expected. The monastery was a full fortress. With a thriving if cloistered community. A perfect place to remove yourself from the world. You threw yourself into routine, but safe and important duties. It didn’t take long for you to make the acquaintance of Carolyn and Imoen. The two girls were the only children in residence at the time, and they seemed determined to make you laugh. You made it hard on them at first! But their enthusiasm and love of life were infectious. You knew at first, that you were the new guy and likely drew their attention for exactly that reason. But you all really became good friends. And over the next couple years it was hard for you not to notice Carolyn was growing into a beautiful young woman. She could almost make you forget Her.
A couple years ago Gorion, Carolyn’s adoptive father (and Imoen’s? Strange that. You think Imoen’s mostly been raised by Winthrop. But there’s some complicated tight bonds there), asked you to train his daughter as a Warrior. This surprised you a little, she was never one for hard work and was quick to decide she had studies whenever labor was threatened. It surprised you even more when she took to it quite well. She’s far stronger than her little 5’2” frame suggests, you tease she has “orc blood!”. Not strong like many of the Watchers, but stronger than most adult men. She’s also agile and tough. And you think the success at training has given her a big boost of confidence. She carries it well…
But today has been weird. Gorion asked you this morning to stick close to Imoen. He had an errand to run with Carolyn and suspected Imoen would try to follow. He didn’t ask you to prevent that (thank goodness! That wouldn’t have ended well), but to follow and keep an eye on her whatever happened. Some of your old anxieties are threatening to return.
Davis is a Human Cavalier, LG. 18-52/15/18/12/15/17. Total is only 95, again used EEKeeper. I also assigned him a suit of Plate Mail (which he should have as a Watcher, but isn’t otherwise available to purchase in Candlekeep) and 12000 experience. The experience is trivial in the big picture, but no doubt it will make the first couple chapters of the game more survivable.
My initial thoughts for this run, which may be subject to change…
Recruit Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira and Neera. In Beregost, I think Khalid will be detached to run a permanent base of operations (I never want to keep a guy who's battle cry seems to be "my heart's really not in this!"). Then add Branwen. Eventually (3rd or 4th level?) I’ll dual Imoen to mage, then boot Neera and recruit Alora (thanks to Tweaks she’s in Gullykin). That should do for BG. In SoD probably Corwin, Safana, Minsc and Dynaheir for a team? Still undecided on BG2
I’ll start with a couple disclaimers. One, I’m not a power gamer! I don’t care if these characters aren’t “optimized”. My interest is in making them feel real. Like actual people. That said, I ran a similar pair a couple months back and these two should be slightly more powerful from a pure numbers perspective than the previous pair (who completed the game quite easily).
Two, these characters should be mostly legal. Apart from noting I assigned their scores in EEKeeper and gave no thought at all to what I rolled. So they are designed characters, but not illegal (meaning, it might have taken me a long time to roll these two! But there’s no reason I couldn’t have eventually done so). Davis will start at 4th level is the only “non-standard” issue I’m aware of.
Three, I do have tweaks mod, NPC Project, BG1 Unfinished Business, Skie: Cost of a Girl’s Soul, IWDification (just for the extra spells, no class tweaks) and a few other minor appearance/convenience related mods.
Carolyn has grown up as Gorion’s ward in Candlekeep. She’s always been best friends with Imoen, for many years they were the only kids around and they made the most of it. But she was more bookish than her buddy. From a young age she loved all the books and reading about pretty much everything. In her early teens she discovered a love for reading about the Gods, religion and all things metaphysical. For some reason, that was never clear to you, Gorion seemed nervous about this area of study. And make no mistake, you love the old man, the only parent you’ve ever known. So you’ve tried to honor his sensitivity and make sure your studies involved all the things he was more comfortable with you studying; like pure academics, math, sciences, literature, magic, history. With your own interests kept more on the DL.
Also, about four years ago, a new Sergeant of the Watchers came to Candlekeep. His name is Davis and he seems young for his position. He also seemed to be down all the time, so you and Imoen made it a mission to make him laugh and lighten up! It seemed to work, and you’ve been friends for years now.
About two years back Gorion decided you needed some sort of professional training so you could take care of yourself. You really want to be a cleric, but you knew Gorion would be upset with this choice so you decided you would be a Warrior! Funny. You’ve never been big, and you’d rather find a good book than work hard. But you took to it pretty easily. Gorion asked Davis to lead up your training. Which may have also helped your motivation, it turns out you really like having an excuse to spend more time with the young Paladin. You’ve heard from all your trainers that you’re stronger than they expect, you’re quick and *surprisingly* hardy. Your fighter training has gone well. You did make a point of training on Warhammers; because you knew, one day, you would be a Cleric of Lathander.
Today, Gorion made a surprise announcement that the two of you would be leaving Candlekeep! You don’t like this. The idea of leaving Imoen and Davis (!) makes you short of breath. This can’t be for long? What is going on, you’ve never left home before.
Carolyn is a Human Fighter, NG. 15/18/16/15/18/17. 99 total! Yeah I just EEKeepered that. Carolyn will otherwise be completely legal and will dual to Cleric at 7th level.
Davis has always wanted to be a Paladin. A champion of those who can’t defend themselves and defender of everything that is good. Growing up in Waterdeep with two parents who were devoted to Torm this was easy decision. Dad was a cleric and Mom a Paladin, they supported your choice completely. You excelled at training and never had any doubts. You participated in a couple of operations against bandits and slavers. And you met Her. She made your heart sing in a way it never had before, brought out the poet in you. Then came a big mission against a really twisted up gang of old Bane worshippers. Almost 50 of you went up against them. You won, but at a terrible cost. Only 20 of you came home. She wasn’t one of them. There wasn’t enough left of Her that could even be identified, never mind Raised.
You wasted a year drunk. You were removed from all responsibilities by the Temple. About four years ago you started coming out of it, some. You knew you didn’t want any more adventures, no more watching comrades fall. You heard about a library, a monastery, that was looking for permanent guards. Especially wanted were those with experience for Sergeant positions. You traveled to Candlekeep and got one of those jobs.
You’d heard of the place before, but it wasn’t what you expected. The monastery was a full fortress. With a thriving if cloistered community. A perfect place to remove yourself from the world. You threw yourself into routine, but safe and important duties. It didn’t take long for you to make the acquaintance of Carolyn and Imoen. The two girls were the only children in residence at the time, and they seemed determined to make you laugh. You made it hard on them at first! But their enthusiasm and love of life were infectious. You knew at first, that you were the new guy and likely drew their attention for exactly that reason. But you all really became good friends. And over the next couple years it was hard for you not to notice Carolyn was growing into a beautiful young woman. She could almost make you forget Her.
A couple years ago Gorion, Carolyn’s adoptive father (and Imoen’s? Strange that. You think Imoen’s mostly been raised by Winthrop. But there’s some complicated tight bonds there), asked you to train his daughter as a Warrior. This surprised you a little, she was never one for hard work and was quick to decide she had studies whenever labor was threatened. It surprised you even more when she took to it quite well. She’s far stronger than her little 5’2” frame suggests, you tease she has “orc blood!”. Not strong like many of the Watchers, but stronger than most adult men. She’s also agile and tough. And you think the success at training has given her a big boost of confidence. She carries it well…
But today has been weird. Gorion asked you this morning to stick close to Imoen. He had an errand to run with Carolyn and suspected Imoen would try to follow. He didn’t ask you to prevent that (thank goodness! That wouldn’t have ended well), but to follow and keep an eye on her whatever happened. Some of your old anxieties are threatening to return.
Davis is a Human Cavalier, LG. 18-52/15/18/12/15/17. Total is only 95, again used EEKeeper. I also assigned him a suit of Plate Mail (which he should have as a Watcher, but isn’t otherwise available to purchase in Candlekeep) and 12000 experience. The experience is trivial in the big picture, but no doubt it will make the first couple chapters of the game more survivable.
My initial thoughts for this run, which may be subject to change…
Recruit Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira and Neera. In Beregost, I think Khalid will be detached to run a permanent base of operations (I never want to keep a guy who's battle cry seems to be "my heart's really not in this!"). Then add Branwen. Eventually (3rd or 4th level?) I’ll dual Imoen to mage, then boot Neera and recruit Alora (thanks to Tweaks she’s in Gullykin). That should do for BG. In SoD probably Corwin, Safana, Minsc and Dynaheir for a team? Still undecided on BG2
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I always seem to have to go with Minsc for a warrior and Dynaheir in SoD for a magic-user, but am thinking to go with the bard this next time and perhaps Dorn as I find heavy arcane spells not needed generally in BG or SoD (although of course helpful). I will also use a bard in BG. I do usually play with Viconia and Glint for my own undead army in SoD. I usually pass on Neera as I do not like the unpredictability of wild mages. I think she is good in BG2 though.
I have never been a Khalid fan but I know he has his proponents. I think Jahiera is average in BG, a bit better in SoD, but she really shines in BG2 once she has ironskins.
Unmodded I don’t think she brings much to the table.
I used to use Minsc and Dynaheir more in BG1, and I still sort of miss the big guy. I will definitely use them both, whole game, again fairly soon. But I think not with this crew.
Garrick is an interesting thought. I’ve only used him on small doses, but maybe he’d be fun try again.
I do avoid evil, especially when I have a Paladin. But one of these days, I do need to play through with Viconia and her redemption story.
I have not really tried the other mods that add quests and change dialog. I tried the Gavin NPC mod back in the day, but remember some of the items added from the encounters in BG2 were over the top (although great character).
NPC Project mostly just adds interactions to make the available characters feel more like BG2 characters. There is some minor content added, like Imoen starting on her journey as a Mage. There are many characters there I will never use, but all of the ones I use seem pretty well written. As a fan mod there may be a few clunkers I haven’t found.
I recently tried some content mods for IWD (Below and Below Inn, Rediscovering Kuldahar) and really enjoyed them, I especially liked how much life and character they add to those settings.
I’ve long used Unfinished Business, it fits in pretty well. But otherwise I take a cautious approach to such things. Back over 20 years ago I wasn’t happy with a couple I tried. But I;ve played the game so much now, it may be time to try a couple more?
I go back and forth on SCS. I tried it many years ago (or was it Tactics? I’m not sure now). But I felt like the difficulty added was too meta, too artificial. I don’t know, I finished one game with it and took it off. I know there’s a setting to make opponents smarter but not otherwise change them. Maybe that would work better for me? No doubt, the idea of changing up some challenges has some appeal.
I’d suggested I would dump Neera and keep Branwen. But since Carolyn will be dueling to cleric soon I decided Neera would be of more utility and I booted Branwen. I’m thinking Neera will be mostly a device and buffing mage (and Identify! She has no chance of failure on this). While Imoen is a combat caster.
When I booted Branwen I replaced her with Alora. I had forgotten I’d installed “Level 1 NPCs”, pleasant surprise to see I’d changed her to a fighter/thief short bow specialist. Dang, that little Halfling packs a punch!
Right now, at around 6th level, I’d say this isn’t a very strong party. But once Davis gets the “Strength Tome” and Carolyn unlocks her fighter class things may really change.
I do use a exp cap remover, so hitting levels 8/7 for Carolyn and Jaheira making 9th level Druid are possibilities in this run.
I'm also going to try to (re)recruit Alora in SoD. I know that's not strictly possible. But I'm thinking, if I go into EEKeeper and check the box to make her exportable; I could export her at the end of the opening dungeon. Then when I start putting my new team together just switch to multi-player and import her? Obviously she won't have any quest/story material in the expansion but she should otherwise work like any other original character? I think. We'll see...
The scenario for Imoen's dualling is a little more problematic in games where she's already been dualled. So have a bit of head canon: Imoen is extremely Intelligent, but basically self-taught as a mage (so far). So I'm thinking she was at a bit of a dead end as BG1 ends. Maybe its a "technique" thing? Or maybe she has a misunderstanding of certain Arcane particulars? Regardless, she is in need of some more formal teaching to further her understanding of how the Arcane works.
Second, does anyone know a way to reassign Alora's original voice set to her via EEKeeper? Or some other voodoo? Maybe I need to learn to use Near Infinity? (Cue proverbial "old dog, new trick" quip). My export/import trick worked fine for the workings of the character. But voice sets travel seperately.
On a closely related note, is it possible to assign any of the IE voice sets to any character? Likely a mod to add the function? Seriously, I think IWD has the best voice sets of any of the games currently and would love access to those across the saga.
I'm into the Shadow Thief story now. But I think I'll go recruit Keldorn and replace Minsc with him before we head off to the graveyard. Keldorn is a pure upgrade over the hamster loving ranger... sadly. there will be less "butt kicking for goodness" going forward!
Carolyn and Davis returned to their new home at the former De'Arnise Keep. Since their exploits there and all over the region, they'd been formally accepted as the new ruling nobles. But titles and such never interested them much. They did stand as a force of righteousness in the area, and kept the peace for all residents they were now responsible for. They kept their close ties to the Order of the Radiant Heart and Temple of Lathander in Athkatla as well.
Of course they'd come home with crazy wealth from their adventures, that was largely invested in their community and infrastructure. They had their first child less than a year after returning home, the first of an eventual five.
Nalia kept a residence at the Keep too. She'd officially transferred all claims and titles to Carolyn, but often served as the Steward when Carolyn and Davis were called off for one reason or another.
Imoen remained the official custodian of the Planar Sphere, but she was rarely there. She enjoyed the freedom to travel. And was a frequent long-term visitor to Carolyn and Davis.
Skie returned to Baldur's Gate, she rejected her Father's noble title but made herself available as needed to the Flaming Fist. And she visited the former De'Arnise Keep on many occasions too.
Aerie wandered and explored some. She was indeed known for a one person war against several known groups of slavers. But this never did completely consume her, she also made a point of paying frequent visits to her friends in Amn.
Jaheira watched over the Druid Grove near Trademeet for many years and was also no stranger.
Keldorn even visited on occasion, it seemed he often needed a visit "out to the country" with his wife and daughters.
Minsc was seen the least, his homeland was really quite some distance. He did visit on at least two occasions. But it was often not clear if he knew who he was visiting, at least until Boo set him straight.