Seals summoning bug confirmed?

FredN

I just watched a video from another player, showing his party venturing on the Seals level (good characters this time}, and while they were on the Globe Machine room, he summoned a Planetar, something I am unable to do at the present time. Now, there is one possibility that might explain this. It may be that one can summon a Celestial before you start messing with the seals, but not after. Seems a bit funky, but it is a possibility. Anyone able to shed spme light on this?

FredN

In the spirit of scientific investigation, I went waaay back before I hit the globe machine, and went down to the Seal level. I was able to summon a Celestial even in the seal room itself. Apparently the anti-summing thing is only triggered after we start messing with the actual seals. Further testing seems needed; I mean, what happens if I summon a Planetar and then mess with the seals? Does it vanish?

skorch

Upload a save when you're unable to summon. Maybe there's something specific to your game.

FredN

I have a file saved in documents, but when I try to attach it, I can't seem to do so. For some reason it doesn't want to become available. This seems to be the best I can do. I suspect it's not quite what you need.
https://forums.beamdog.com/uploads/editor/24/vykvzv5o5kg5.bmp

FredN

BALDUR.bmp
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FredN

Is it possible to creat a game log file? Maybe I could attach something like that.

skorch

Upload BALDUR.gam and BALDUR.SAV. In a zip file, if necessary.

FredN

fail

skorch

Zip file failed too?

FredN

.....Alas, I don't have Winzip right now. I did have it, but I am not very computer literate and wasn't using it properly. So, when the subscription expired, I didn't bother renewing it. I can try installing it again. But also I am getting a bit discouraged. I have fought the third group of Seal defenders 6 times now, and have lost pathetically each time. I have helms of protection from charm on everyone who can wear them, my mages have various armor spells and mirror image, and I have 3 fully charged wands of spell strike. I also lay the maximum allowed number of traps, and my mages both drop a total of 3 delayed blast fireballs.
.....Nothing seems to help. Their counterspells disable some our defenses, their magic resistance is high, and while we can kill some of them, the Hive Mother and Nalrissa are pretty much untouchable. Also their AI is quite well programmed. Edwin is packing 2 timestops, 2 comets and a greater alacrity, but they know he's a threat and silence him pretty fast. And no, he doesn't have vocalize at the moment. I do intend to rectify that, naturally. Just for fun they also drop a cloudkill on us, and hitting them with Horrid withering in return isn't terribly effective due to their magic resistance.
.....At the start, I have 4 skeletal warriors and an earth elemental already conjured to run interference, but they don't last long. At this point, I'm not sure that even if I could summon a Planetar whether it would make much difference in the outcome. Going to let this one ride for a while, haven't finished off Sendai and Balthazar yet.

skorch

Select the save folder and Send to > Compressed (zipped) folder

FredN

I'm still trying. I moved the file to zipped folder as you directed, but when I tried to attach it here I can't locate it. Will keep trying.

FredN

.....OK at this point the question sort of becomes moot. I defeated a bunch of high level critters, including a Hive Mother, while attacking Sendai's enclave. I used the techniques I learned there to defeat those pesky defenders of the final seal. I can now go down and say Hi to Demogorgon. I will never have to bother with this room ever again.
.....I will note, however, that even after the combat was over, when the dfenders wera all dead, and all my summoned allies had poofed, trying to summon a Clestial ... of any type and from any summoner ... still failed. Same messaging was seen: You cannot summon any more creatures. I will also point out that summoning Celestials works every other place I have tried it. I had no problem, for example, in summoning a Dark Planetar to aid in the final confrontation with Sendai.
.....I haven't gone lower yet to ecounter the "Imprisoned One"; I'll be curious to see if I can summon Celestials there. If I can, that will put the end to my theory that this is all Demogorgon's doing. Oh, and I am going to have some VERY "pointed" questions to ask those bozos on top of the Keep. They have clearly been leading me on, and "Homie don't play that!". (Very, very old SNL reference).