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Bardic Songhold: later chapters

FredNFredN Member Posts: 243
OK, now I have another question. It's been 7 years since I actually did a playthrough of SoA, so my recollections are a bit fuzzy. Also, I was not playing a Bard, I was a ridiculously OP Half-Orc Berserker. However, it is my recollection that once you head off to Spellhold and complete that quest, you cannot come back to Athkatla. You undertake the sea trip, head off to the Underdark, etc. What happens to the Playhouse after that? Assuming it has reached the self sustaining stage at that point, it would seem to me that it plays no further part in the SoA narrative. I can't imagine any way to receive revenues from half a world away. Now, you can go back to Athkatla in ToB, but is the Playhouse actually accessible then? I don't recall seeing it, but I wasn't really paying attention at the time, not being the Bardic owner.

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  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 4,002
    edited April 15
    Chapters 4 and 5 are a long sequence that doesn't allow free travel on the world map, yes. Then you come back to the surface in chapter 6, and can go back to Athkatla and all the other bits from chapter 2 and 3 you didn't do already.

    The various timed bits from quests generally go on pause during this sequence. Sure, the timers will run, and expire, but their consequences will be delayed. No messengers, no new romance conversations, and so on.

    If you've finished up the play and are just picking up the revenues, the money from the cycle you were on will go in the box. And then maybe the next cycle will start, or maybe it'll wait until you're back on the surface. I'd have to look at those scripts to know.
  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,497
    I almost said something similar jmerry. At least, in theory most things will wait for you.

    I chickened out, because it seems to me those quests and timers are often very buggy. They often seem to just stop after a few messengers for no reason I can tell. The fighter stronghold is the worst for this! I suspect the travel in chapters 4 and 5 has something to do with that?
  • FredNFredN Member Posts: 243
    >" Then you come back to the surface in chapter 6, and can go back to Athkatla and all the other bits from chapter 2 and 3 you didn't do already."<
    Oh, wow! I didn't recall that part at all. I had been trying to do everything from Ch2 and 3 done before heading to Spellhold. I still want to get most of it done, but now maybe I'll put off a coupls of things for a bit. Thanks; gives me something to think about. ;)
  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,497
    That's why its no big deal for those who choose to rescue Imoen right away. You don't miss any of the game.
  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 4,002
    atcDave wrote: »
    They often seem to just stop after a few messengers for no reason I can tell. The fighter stronghold is the worst for this! I suspect the travel in chapters 4 and 5 has something to do with that?

    Nope. Missing messenger bugs have nothing to do with chapters 4 and 5. I once managed to catch one once - the script block that was supposed to spawn the messenger started, but stopped before the messenger actually spawned. But hey, it got to the part about setting the "don't do this again" variable.
    The problem here is glitchy stuff with partially executed scripts, and I have no idea how to do anything about that.

    Well, OK, there's one bug that is obviously fixable. The Ranger stronghold - if you're hanging out in the Umar Hills when a particular timer runs down that should spawn the messenger alerting you to the next step, you just fail the quest instead. That, mods can do something about (and it's in the EE Fixpack).
  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,497
    Interesting. It does *seem* like, some of my builds do better with completing quests than others. Although for the last several years I've been changing my builds too often to have any statistically meaningful proof of that.

    When I do my character/story write-ups I always assume everything executed like it was supposed to, not what actually happened!
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