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FredNFredN Member Posts: 494
in Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition
OK, I am at the exit portal from the telepert maze. I did the thing with the gambling Cambion, and won the knowledge of the way out. I did go back a few rooms to whack the Wraith Lord, and also some Demon Knights in yet another room. However, when we go back to the exit portal, apparently we need something else in order to leave. What am I missing?

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  • FredNFredN Member Posts: 494
    edited June 2
    I have the scepter of radiance, but I only have scored 1 portal gem so far. I am guessing that ... I need the other 2? But where are they located? I Am am rather reluctant to wander through the maze again, but I suspect that's what I am going to have to do.
  • FredNFredN Member Posts: 494
    edited June 2
    ....I guess I should mention how I got to this point. Having gone through a certain part of the Maze level, and trying my best to avoid getting involved in that silly Demon War, we encountered an ever so cute succubus ... OK, by defitinion all succubi are cute ... who offered to tell me how to get to the exit to the next level in exchange for just one kiss. Well, my horndog MC can't resist such an offer, and did the deed, ending up level drained in the process. Well worth it, however. B)
    .....So, she then took us to the Gambling Cambion. He of course is scripted to win every wager, but he did toss us a sceptre gem before booking off to another dimension. Now, since the wager I made with him was the way out of here, I assumed that I could just use the teleport device in the room. Alas, he was less than honest with me. Oh no! A demon who was dishonest?? I am shocked to the core! Anyway, I seem to be lacking something to be able to leave. I suspect i am going to have to retrace my steps through the entire level in order to get the remaining two gems. And all this after whacking the Wraith King and slaughtering a roomful of Demon Knights. What a bother!
  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,610
    You have to kill the two most powerful demons in the maze to get the scepter gems.

    And the Cambion is not scripted to win! You can beat him and get the Spectral Brand and Wish scroll. But I do find the odds are against you, and multiple reloads will likely be required to win.
  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 4,082
    Kill, or make a deal with. If you aren't "too good", the first of the two fiend leaders you meet offers a deal to you - kill the other, and the gem is yours without a fight. (Too good: for the demons, that's a good or lawful neutral character talking to them, or the protagonist is lawful good and a paladin or cleric. For the devils, that's a lawful good or neutral good character talking to them, or the protagonist is a lawful good paladin.)

    Regarding the cambion's game, you have a 25% chance to win in the first hand, a 50% chance to win in the second, and a 0% chance to win in the third. Regardless of what you're playing for. The cambion is entirely honest about the game, and even lets you have the gem and scepter when they leave (if they win the "way out" from you). None of that party is evil. Though if you're feeling evil or paranoid, you can pick a fight instead of giving up the scepter, and take the Deck from the cambion's corpse.
    (I'm using they/them pronouns because that cambion has the "NIETHER" gender)
  • FredNFredN Member Posts: 494
    I understand what you are saying. What confuses me is the damned (literally) succubus. She got her kiss, I got level drained, and she transported us to the room with the level's exit portal. But we can't use it without the other two secptre gems! What was the point of that enitre encounter? Just to jerk me around?
  • FredNFredN Member Posts: 494
    edited June 2
    If you aren't familiar with the scenario, we entered a room with a number of demons. I was getting ready to fight them, when a succubus said something like "Hey handsome, how about a kiss? Gimme a kiss and I'll take you where you want to go." OK. that's not the exact dialogue, I forget what she actually said, but that's pretty much the gist of it. Smooch, level drain, poof to the exit room and the Gambling Cambion. We gamble for the way out, win a sceptre gem, but are still stuck in the damned room. We can't use the exit portal just yet. Which means I have to go back and whack some more demons or whatever to get the other two gems. The entire succubus interlude seems pointless to me, since we can't actually use the exit right away.
  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 4,082
    Well, yes, it is kind of pointless. And it's your fault for trusting a (chaotic evil) demon. The smart thing to do is to kill her and her minions.

    There is a possible route through the maze in which that teleport represents progress, but if you've already dealt with both fiend leaders the succubus is mostly just teleporting you past rooms you've already cleared.
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