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Problems running a Thief Stronghold

.... There is one problem running this Stronghold; the dues. I have to pay Renal every 5-7 days. The only exceptions are Chapters 5 and 6, for obvious reasons. You would think doing the Planar Sphere mission would also make you exempt, but apparently not, since the Sphere is still (technically) in Athkatla. I do get a 2 day extension, but that's still pretty annoying. I didn't get through the Sphere in the time allotted, so I was removed as chief, and had to pay Renal to get reinstated. Unfortunately, this is a one time thing; a second suspension will be permanent.
..... Managing your missions can get a bit complicated. There are half a dozen missions I can think of that take significant time. The Umar Hills, the Beholder Cult, Windspear Hills, the Druid Grove and Rasaad's Quest come to mind. I was just now in the middle of exploring Watcher's Keep, and had to return to make my payment. This was more bothersome than difficult, but we were only on level 2. If I am summoned while in the Teleport Maze, for example, things could get tricky.
.... Of course, I don't have to do the Keep now, I can let it go until ToB, so that's probably what I'll end up doing. I have already done Druid Grove and Umar Hills; it is possible, though difficult, to run back and forth during Windspear Hills. But I haven't gone after the Beholders yet, and that one could be a problem. I may have to leave it alone until just befote Chapter 7,
.... Now, you would think I could just see Renal and pay up several weeks ahead of time, but it seems I can't do that. An oversight in the Game Designer's part. They probably didn't thoroughly explore the ins-and-outs of being a Thief Guildmaster. Bummer.

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  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,075
    to be honest the thief stronghold isnt all that amazing unfortunately, add the end of the day, plus or minus its just more gold, at the early stages of the game this can be helpful ( and even then it still isnt much ) but by mid game/ late game its mostly for the lulz

    if i remember correctly there is only 3 mini quests associated with the thief stronghold and once you finish off those its just 500-1000 gold at best every 5 to 7 days

    so worse case scenario, if you have already finished the specific thief stronghold quests and you are only at the gold collecting portion of the stronghold, you aren't really missing all that much

    ironically i've had many a many fighter type play throughs where de arnise hold was my stronghold and i never even visited the keep once after i finished it, and yet had no impact on the play through

    so i wouldn't be too worried about missing out on the thief stronghold once the mini quests are done, because by the end of SoA i wouldn't be surprised if you are going to have 200k+ gold going into ToB
  • FredNFredN Member Posts: 766
    edited December 2025
    Only 3 mini-quests?? How disappointing! The Fighter Stronghold had something like 8-9 problems I needed to take care of, if I recall, culminating in the main baddie launching an all-out assault with his hired force of mercenaries. Bummer.
  • AerakarAerakar Member Posts: 1,106
    I loved the thief one the first time I played it, but I skip it about 1/2 my thief playthroughs now.
  • FredNFredN Member Posts: 766
    edited December 2025
    It's more for flavor than anything else. I enjoy the RP ".. let's increase the extortion ... I mean protection ... rates." " No smuggling slaves; even we aren't that evil." Etc. But I was really looking forward to at least 7 or 8 missions. :(
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  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,075
    FredN wrote: »
    It's more for flavor than anything else. I enjoy the RP ".. let's increase the extortion ... I mean protection ... rates." " No smuggling slaves; even we aren't that evil." Etc. But I was really looking forward to at least 7 or 8 missions. :(

    yeah unfortunately the fighter one has the most by far and all the other classes have 3 or 4 at most

    i wish the stronghold quests were also like the caster ones where you can obtain special items like the rings that add spells slots and special armor like the cleric and druid quest offers ( well i guess the paladin one does give you a full plate +2 and a large shield +2 but that can easily be replaced almost right away )
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