Opening locked stuff?

Komarr

In BG does the old adage "If at first you don't succeed, try try again" apply? When you fail to bash something open with a weapon, or a thief fails a lockpick attempt ( or even other stuff like disarming a trap) can they ever succeed? I know about the whole "save-reload" loop and even "come back at a higher level" things. I'm asking about "here and now" are multiple attempts of any use?

Macona

I think the Thief skills are static values to determine if they pass or fail, so no random chance. (but you can come back later when you have a higher skill)

I'm not sure about bashing though

Oxford_Guy

Macona said:

I think the Thief skills are static values to determine if they pass or fail, so no random chance. (but you can come back later when you have a higher skill)

I'm not sure about bashing though

I'm not so sure, in my current game sometimes my thief opens a lock after trying more than once, maybe it's a fixes percentage plus/minus a small random amount?

csuzw

There is definitely some random chance. I've failed 4 times and succeeded on the 5th before. There's no need to save/reload though, just keep trying a few times and if you fail more than X times move on until you've increased your skill.

bbear

I think this is the mechanics of lock picking and trap disarming: thief skill pt+1d20. Also, there are certain locks and traps in the game that require 100% in order to pick/disarm. I manage to open most locks and disarm most traps w/ Nalia in bg2 w/ the ring of lock pick and ring of danger sense.

lurimax

AFAIK both lock picking and bashing a lock is a static yes/no. You could try using the wizard spell knock if you have it available

rufus_hobart

there's a definite element of chance involved...i usually try 3 or 4 times if i fail the first time, sometimes your luck will come good if it's within your thief's capabilities.

Drugar

There is an element of chance involved, though usually it's "Open on the first try", "Open after a whole bunch of tries" or "Don't open at all", making me believe the roll isn't *that* almighty. Try 5-6 times, then come back later is my suggestion.

Abel

Lock/Trap requires a minimum score. If you don't satisfy the requirements but succeed, that simply means you rolled a Critical Hit.

Kirkor

Try 5-6 times. If you can't open, then come back later.

There is hidden dice roll, when you disarm traps/open locks or steal. But even best dice roll can't guarantee you can open door or disarm trap if your skill is too low.

AlexRmF

the success of a lock-picking attempt is determined by a dice roll, so it will happen sometimes to be able to open a lock on the 2nd or 3rd try ... but only if that that lock is your character's skill range. I usually try 3 times before I give up

rdarken

I typically follow the "try 5-6 times and give up" thing. Sometimes it works, so there's definitely some kind of roll going on back there. I don't know exactly how it works, though.