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  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,963

    Put some plate mail armors in his pack to slow him. That way he willl be last in every battle...

    lol Rasaad problems...

  • AristilliusAristillius Member Posts: 873
    I gave him the 19 strength belt, (charname with 18/xx str and Minsc wouldnt have profited too much from it) and bracers of blinding strike. He is lvl 6 now -> better AC. Rasaad is kicking ass in my party.
  • mlitanomlitano Member Posts: 14
    I couldnt handle it anymore and got rid of him. He can barely take out a kobold 1v1 at level 5. I used him as sling archer and he would still die randomly to things such as magic missile. Yesterday I got waylaid and the cave bear went straight for him. I could not move out fast enough and he got 1 shotted trying to escape. I am playing hardcore so I cant afford to res him after every zone I explore. The problem with rasaad is his constitution. Everything else is manageable
  • AHFAHF Member Posts: 1,376
    @mlitano - Monks are weak at low levels but I don't blame his skills if you have trouble 1 v 1 versus a kobold at level 5 even on insane. His HPs really aren't out of line with a lot of the non-meat-shield characters and he moves faster than any non-hasted character so if you are worried about him being one-shotted that similarly seems to rule out a high % of the other NPCs especially given that his speed gives you a wider range of error (i.e., greater ability to run away screaming).
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  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited December 2012
    In my game Rasaad hasn't died once. He's now at level 6. He has AC -3, HP 35, and THACO 15. His fists are 1d10 at 2 attacks per round which is pretty respectable. He can use Stunning Blow two times per rest period, but I reserve those for when I send him after mages.

    If I really wanted I could have one of my mages cast Strength on him. Or have him use strength potions. I've only bothered to do that a few times, though, eg, for a particularly tough fight.

    If Rasaad isn't trying to Stun mages (that I usually have my mages Blind first), he's fighting archers (also Blinded). And the archers when meleeing rarely hit him with his -3 AC. He sometimes fails to save against mage's Horror and Hold spells, but thus far it it has only rendered him ineffective, it doesn't end with his death.

    In the cases where he's fighting a tougher melee opponent, he's usually teamed with someone else. He does fine.

    In a few cases where he's gotten critted I may have him step back, glup a healing potion, and kite the enemy using the Ring of Energy from a distance. Enemy meleers don't have a chance of catching him with his blazing footspeed. When he's got them hurt he'll move back in and use his fists.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    Rasaad has feelings and he wants to live!
  • LennisLennis Member Posts: 34
    So at what level about does Rassad stop being a support character and starts becoming truly dangerous?
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    @Lennis Well, here is the progression for the Monk class. At level 13 a Monk gets Quivering Palm which forces targets to save or die.
  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598
    Lennis said:

    So at what level about does Rassad stop being a support character and starts becoming truly dangerous?

    lvl 6 is OK. He can kill some gibberlings.

    Earlier in the game he is just useless.
    Try to give him a sling, some buff potions (do not forget to use them, you can use a default Red 18 STR potion) or even fireball potions to throw into enemies from a distance (or the ring and the necklace with fire spells). Later try to put a star into single weap style, and if his run speed is still annoying give him some heavy items to slow him down, like somebody mentioned before. Put all his thief points into Hide, you can use him as a scout.
    Later in the game he will be OK with a scimitar+2 or even with a Drizzt's scimitar, if you want to kill him for his gear. Try to give him the Claw of Kaza later in the game...
    Still - low HP, bad THAC0.

    You can get nice items for him in his personal quest area.
  • RheiosRheios Member Posts: 22
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    I don't know. Rasaad saved my butt against Greywolf. I had him hiding at night, just because I thought it was cool monks could hide, and forgot that one thing that angers Greywolf.(That was a spoiler I don't want to give to people)
    So Greywolf attacks me and Rasaad attacks him from the shadows while he's attacking Jaheria and Khalid. Then I had Rasaad use stunning fist. The freaking thing actually hit. Greywolf just stood there like a bag of rocks and got beat to death. If that hadn't landed Jaheria would be dead. (2 health after one successful hit on her.)
  • pzrshrekpzrshrek Member Posts: 5
    Indeed this may be the worst npc i have ever tried in BG series.. but i like to play the game without too much micromanagement, only pauses game if anyone is risking of dying etc
  • LennisLennis Member Posts: 34
    I used a constitution tome on Rassad for a quick HP bonus at level 5. Why waste something so valuable on him? Well, a party is only as strong as it's weakest link, and having more HP makes me more inclined to use him the way he was meant to be used. Arguably, Rassad needs CON more than anything.

    Another thing that helps is using the "T" formation and putting him in the 4 spot. That way he can back up anyone on the front line without making himself an easy target.
  • NecroblivionNecroblivion Member Posts: 210
    I don't understand why everyone say he is weak. What do you expect of him? Its like saying that Imoen is weak because she is not powerful in melee.

    Characters with bad AC always give something else to the party that the characters with the good AC can't. Rogues give their skills (lock pick, traps, and nice opener in combat, etc'), Bards give versatility (not bad at fighting, can sling few spells, can identify), and so on. Monks role on the low levels is to be a good scout, to aid the main fighters in combat, take down the weak enemies (like the rogue), use his stun when its most useful, and also guard the very weak characters in the back (wizards), because he can move across the battlefield fast.

    Don't send your monk to attack an enemy that your melee rogue can't take down.

    And almost every class is ultra awesome at BG2 with all of the +5 items that are scattered across the game like garbage.
  • LennisLennis Member Posts: 34

    I don't understand why everyone say he is weak. What do you expect of him? Its like saying that Imoen is weak because she is not powerful in melee.

    Good points, all. Except I don't think you'll find many players who think Imoen is a weak character. Even at the lowest levels she can contribute effectively at range, and she has more HP than Rassad with her CON bonus. You have to be much more cautious with Rassad in the early game, though he is becoming more and more useful as he gains levels. I actually rather like him now that he's level 6. I'm thinking about playing a Charname monk in another playthrough to see what the class can do with awesome stats.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    I've now on Rasaad's quest in the new area for him, and just watched him get his first chunking crit on an enemy with his fists.
  • moopymoopy Member Posts: 938
    Put a point into scimitars and single weapon fighting and give him Twinkle, +3AC right there
  • LennisLennis Member Posts: 34
    I know. Single weapon fighting is next in his queue. ;)
  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598

    also guard the very weak characters in the back (wizards).

    What to do if he's the weakest member in the group?


    Don't send your monk to attack an enemy that your melee rogue can't take down.

    I disagree on thieves.
    Thieves can be great damagedealers in BG1, unlike monks. BSing people is not just fun, but profit.
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