[Bug] Not enough display slots for all the Known spells
Gallowglass
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Observed behaviour: when a character learns all 25 level 3 spells, only the first 24 are displayed as Known spells. The last 1 isn't shown and therefore isn't available for memorisation. (I found this with a Bard, but I assume it'll be the same for a Mage since their spell-system is identical).
Expected behaviour: every spell Known should be available for memorisation - that's the whole point of learning spells! (This may necessitate some re-design of the way Known spells are displayed, currently 2 pages each showing 3 rows of 4 spells ... but so be it, that format isn't capable of displaying all that needs to be displayed in some cases, so it's not fit for purpose. I suggest adding a fourth row.)
Comment: this is an especially annoying bug for a Bard, who is meant to be capable of some physical combat when necessary - the level 3 spell "lost" by this bug is the alphabetically-last one, Wraithform, which is the ideal defensive buff for a Bard going into physical combat! It'd be a particularly crippling loss for a Blade, since he's a Bard particularly intended for physical combat who would therefore probably want that spell often!
Expected behaviour: every spell Known should be available for memorisation - that's the whole point of learning spells! (This may necessitate some re-design of the way Known spells are displayed, currently 2 pages each showing 3 rows of 4 spells ... but so be it, that format isn't capable of displaying all that needs to be displayed in some cases, so it's not fit for purpose. I suggest adding a fourth row.)
Comment: this is an especially annoying bug for a Bard, who is meant to be capable of some physical combat when necessary - the level 3 spell "lost" by this bug is the alphabetically-last one, Wraithform, which is the ideal defensive buff for a Bard going into physical combat! It'd be a particularly crippling loss for a Blade, since he's a Bard particularly intended for physical combat who would therefore probably want that spell often!
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Wraithform is a new spell, i wouldn't call missing it a crippling loss
Think about the less fortunate who bought the GoG version!
Yes, erasing some other spell to make room for Wraithform on the Known page is a workaround. I've just tested this, and it works even after you've already learnt all 25 spells - the game doesn't forget that you've learnt the missing spell, so it does become selectable for memorisation if you erase one of the other spells. Nevertheless, you're allowed to learn all 25, so you ought to be able to use them all rather than having to erase one to fit the list! But I agree that this isn't the most desperately urgent problem.
You all remember how the developers re-added that infamously cut spell "Wraithform" don't you? Yeah, I remember that. It's actually a pretty good spell for it's level! Much better than Protection From Normal Weapons on a Fighter/Mage. There's just one teeny weeny, itsy bitsy problem they didn't consider... The game is actually LIMITED to 24 spells per spell level. We already had 24 level 3 spells in Baldur's Gate 2. So what do you think happens when you try to write 25 spells into your spellbook? Let's take a look shall we.
Screenshot 1:
Here's my spellbook. As you can see, I have every level 3 spell memorized except for Clairvoyance (which would show up 1st on the list). And Wraithform is at the end of the list. Now let's see what happens when I try to write Clairvoyance from a scroll...
Screenshot 2:
UH-OH! It looks like Wraithform got bumped off the page since it was positioned last. And I can no longer memorize it at all! Gee, maybe they should have, you know... added a scrolling button? Or better yet, extended the limit up to 28 spells in that unused space below? That would have been simple enough. So now what happens when I erase a spell? Let's say the 2nd spell on the list, Detect Illusion.
Screenshot 3:
Surprise, Wraithform came back! And now I can use it again. You saw that right, folks. You can only use 24 spells and there are 25 spells to learn. Wow... I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to drop Clairvoyance for now (Farsight is way better anyways).
I guess me saying that I'm not going to say anything *IS* in fact me saying something though...... hmmm Cunundrum. . .