Nizidramanii'yt: How the heck do I trade my items for the damn goblet!

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• charstringssuck Member Posts: 13

  August 2014

  I ended up killing it. Apparently there is no way to bargain with the dragon so every FAQ and walkthrough out there is 100% wrong.

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• elminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,205

  August 2014 edited August 2014

  Edit: You should talk with a person that has a higher amount of charisma. Say above 14. You should also have 30,000 gold in your party or greater. I don't think the high charisma is required however but you definitely need that amount of gold for it to be an option.
  
  To avoid a confrontation you have to give everything you own for it. Just from my testing at the moment that looks like that just includes your gold, though the text suggests that it includes your items as well (I didn't find this when I tested it just now). Its possible that a variable wasn't properly firing during my test, but either way talking to him instead of fighting him really isn't worth it.
  

  

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• Jalily Member Posts: 4,681

  August 2014

  Charisma actually doesn't affect the outcome, only his dialogue. You have to ask him flat-out for the goblet instead of trying to manipulate him (and have >= 30k gold, as @elminster says).

  

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  August 2014

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• elminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,205

  August 2014 edited August 2014

  Sergio said:

  From what I remember, he takes also all your magical items. Am I wrong?

  The statements he makes imply this but when I tested it he just seemed to take my gold. I'm guessing that is probably what the "BlackDragonItems" variable is intended to do, but at least for me it wasn't working correctly when I tested it.

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• DJKajuru Member Posts: 3,279

  August 2014

  He takes all your items , as well. I don't really think that's worth the trade.

  

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• Abi_Dalzim Member Posts: 1,410

  August 2014

  While we're on the subject, did he get buffed in EE or is it just me? I feel like I have a harder time with him than I used to despite the fact that my tactics are a lot more sophisticated than they were when I played Vanilla.

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• DJKajuru Member Posts: 3,279

  August 2014

  Abi_Dalzim said:

  While we're on the subject, did he get buffed in EE or is it just me? I feel like I have a harder time with him than I used to despite the fact that my tactics are a lot more sophisticated than they were when I played Vanilla.

  Do you have SCS installed? It made dragons quite smarter!

  

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• Abi_Dalzim Member Posts: 1,410

  August 2014

  DJKajuru said:

  Abi_Dalzim said:

  While we're on the subject, did he get buffed in EE or is it just me? I feel like I have a harder time with him than I used to despite the fact that my tactics are a lot more sophisticated than they were when I played Vanilla.

  Do you have SCS installed? It made dragons quite smarter!

  Nuh uh. The guy just seems to hit harder, and despite the fact that I'm more likely to use Breach than when I first started playing, I seem to have a much harder time hitting him for heavy damage. Not that I can't win or anything, it just seems to be more difficult for some reason.
  
  

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• Cherudek Member Posts: 73

  September 2014

  I remember making that deal years ago, when I first played BG2. The fat lizard actually took Boo from Minsc! I had to reload after that.

  

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• Leon Member Posts: 83

  September 2014

  Cherudek said:

  I remember making that deal years ago, when I first played BG2. The fat lizard actually took Boo from Minsc! I had to reload after that.

  http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/oh-no-he-didnt.jpg

  

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• grimbo74 Member Posts: 1

  December 2015

  Only way i could get the goblet and keep my stuff was to get all characters to drop all there items then deal with him he disapears with 41000gp and afraid to say boo to but characters get to pick kit up and the goblet

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• Gallowglass Member Posts: 3,356

  December 2015

  Whyever would anyone not want to fight the dragon? Fighting dragons is a core concept in D&D!

  

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• Lord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,198

  December 2015

  Is that why it feels so good to kill Fir-boy? A dragon INSIDE a dungeon?!

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• joluv Member Posts: 2,136

  December 2015

  If only there was a dungeon inside a dragon, we'd be set.

  

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• Lord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,198

  December 2015

  Maybe there is! Crawl in and find out. If you find any gerbils, sparrows and/or catfish, you know you've got it.

  

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