Don't believe that particular multi-class exists within the ruleset the game is supposedly following and they'd have to add all manner of other multi-classes too if this one got in. I'd want a Fighter/Bard.
Don't believe that particular multi-class exists within the ruleset the game is supposedly following and they'd have to add all manner of other multi-classes too if this one got in. I'd want a Fighter/Bard.
I believe that's called a Blade ; )
Though seriously if they were to do any sort of overhaul of classes, I would hope a move to the 3.5 way of operating would be chosen. I just love my class combinations!
@Anton I personally think that that idea is a great one! There's fighter/Mage/cleric so I don't see why this cant be included as well. If the only excuse is that it doesn't follow 2e, then that's a pretty bad excuse because pertaining to classes... They use certain 3e classes.
If i'm not wrong doesn't exist even thief/clerics, no? AD&D forbbiden to any cleric the use of blades if i'm not wrong, and a thief without blades... well maybe that's why. Not sure, just thinking aloud !
@bigdogchris At the end of the game, they'd also have strength 25, perfect protection against everything (including Ctrl Y) and 9 attacks with Belm and Kundane at maximum damage. And much much more. This is a late bloomer, but it is also a powergamer's wet dream.
If i'm not wrong doesn't exist even thief/clerics, no? AD&D forbbiden to any cleric the use of blades if i'm not wrong, and a thief without blades... well maybe that's why. Not sure, just thinking aloud !
Thief/Cleric is a viable multi-class. You have to be a gnome, I think. Possibly half-elf, but I am like 90% sure it's restricted to gnomes. Tiax is one, for example. He's the best of the "bad" NPCs in BG1.
You can still inflict backstabs with any thief weapon, meaning you could use clubs and quarterstaves until you unlock Use All Items.
Gnomes and half orcs. Believe it or not my older brother made a female half Orc cleric thief. A thief/cleric/Mage would be limited to backstabbing with a club or quarter staff..... Staff of the magi for invisibility anyone?
Gnomes and half orcs. Believe it or not my older brother made a female half Orc cleric thief. A thief/cleric/Mage would be limited to backstabbing with a club or quarter staff..... Staff of the magi for invisibility anyone?
Staff of Magi is not single class thief viable, hence BS incapable.
@Anton I personally think that that idea is a great one! There's fighter/Mage/cleric so I don't see why this cant be included as well. If the only excuse is that it doesn't follow 2e, then that's a pretty bad excuse because pertaining to classes... They use certain 3e classes.
Then go play IWD2 or TOEE? They have 3e rules and you can make any combo you want.
(PS, those 3 classes were a poor excuse to get people excited for 3e...don't use that as an excuse for your blasphemy)
I personally have wanted a thief/mage/cleric since I discovered the existence of multiclass. That way I could take whoever I wanted and not have to worry about who my companions were for balance.
@Dazzu Even if you can't backstab with it, you can still use it to get out of the room after a backstab, change weapons, hide again and come back for another backstab.
@Raistlin82 Read my first post. At high levels, a TMC would be a monster. It is definitely a build that benefits from soloing (and removing the XP cap).
If i'm not wrong doesn't exist even thief/clerics, no? AD&D forbbiden to any cleric the use of blades if i'm not wrong, and a thief without blades... well maybe that's why. Not sure, just thinking aloud !
Thief/Cleric is a viable multi-class. You have to be a gnome, I think. Possibly half-elf, but I am like 90% sure it's restricted to gnomes. Tiax is one, for example. He's the best of the "bad" NPCs in BG1.
You can still inflict backstabs with any thief weapon, meaning you could use clubs and quarterstaves until you unlock Use All Items.
Thief/Cleric is available as a dual-class combination and as a multi-class combination for the gnome and half-orc.
Personally, I like the options the way they are. If I were to alter anything I would ask that the halfling be allowed the thief/cleric option. But as is, I'm happy.
I wouldn't mind extra content if it isn't hurting or changing anything. It's an enhanced edition, that has a feature request part in the forums lol. I think it's a good request personally and I would love other multi classing options.
Nah, the idea is to form a party to combine strengths (as per the whole concept of D&D). A thief/mage/cleric would be a one stop shop - they'd be able to cover all bases.
I guess Elminster doesn't count? "Elminster has been a fighter, a thief, and a priest (a priestess, actually) before he became a mage. However, all the skills he picked up in those classes have been neglected over the years and are no longer available to him."
I guess Elminster doesn't count? "Elminster has been a fighter, a thief, and a priest (a priestess, actually) before he became a mage. However, all the skills he picked up in those classes have been neglected over the years and are no longer available to him."
Elminster is a human, therefore he dual classed (in P&P you can dual class more than once)
It's quite obvious that the only reason anyone would want to play as a Thief/Mage/Cleric would be to gain access to the Use Any Item HLA. This kind of character is difficult to imagine (as are most tripled classed characters) from a roleplaying perspective, and thanks to UAI, is extremely over powered. (@Humanoid_Taifun gives a more detailed description)
I don't place the blame on the class combination itself, but rather on UAI. This ability completely dwarfs the rest of the HLA, and leads to such terrors as the Kensai/Thief, the Wizard Slayer/Thief, and of course the Fighter/Mage/Thief. Before the T/M/C can even be considered, Use Any Item must be completely reinvented.
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Otherwise THAT'S why not.
Though seriously if they were to do any sort of overhaul of classes, I would hope a move to the 3.5 way of operating would be chosen. I just love my class combinations!
You can still inflict backstabs with any thief weapon, meaning you could use clubs and quarterstaves until you unlock Use All Items.
(PS, those 3 classes were a poor excuse to get people excited for 3e...don't use that as an excuse for your blasphemy)
Even if you can't backstab with it, you can still use it to get out of the room after a backstab, change weapons, hide again and come back for another backstab.
Reminds me of a certain fighter / rogue / sorcerer that didn't want to be a Bard like his good twin...
Personally, I like the options the way they are. If I were to alter anything I would ask that the halfling be allowed the thief/cleric option. But as is, I'm happy.
A solo-powerbuilders wet dream indeed
That said, if a player wants to mod in this class, let them... on the other hand, find me a 2E C/T/M and be reasonable about it.
Hmmm, also you seem to thumbs up anyone who says yes, that's just desperate.
"Elminster has been a fighter, a thief, and a priest (a priestess, actually) before he became a mage. However, all the skills he picked up in those classes have been neglected over the years and are no longer available to him."
I don't place the blame on the class combination itself, but rather on UAI. This ability completely dwarfs the rest of the HLA, and leads to such terrors as the Kensai/Thief, the Wizard Slayer/Thief, and of course the Fighter/Mage/Thief. Before the T/M/C can even be considered, Use Any Item must be completely reinvented.