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#10718 It should not be possible to summon more than one familiar

HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
edited November 2014 in IWD:EE Bugs (v1.4.0)
[Windows] Find Familiar VERY Bugged When Cast by Two Wizards in Same Party

- Did multiple tests with my party which contains a Gnome Fighter/Illusionist (Neutral Good) and a Human Mage (Lawful Neutral).

- Both mages must cast spell simultaneously (pause game and both give command to cast) for each to summon a familiar. Otherwise it'll say "Familiar has already been summoned" when the second mage attempts it.

- Using the above "trick", the Lawful Neutral mage creates a Ferret. The Gnome creates a Pseudo Dragon.

- Suddenly, both familiars now only respond to the Gnome -- even the one that he did not cast. The other mage is forever ignored, even after reloads.

- When picking up the Ferret to put it into his backpack (which again the Gnome shouldn't be able to even do), it turns into a Rabbit once in inventory.

Notes:
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 990 @ 3.47GHz (12 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 12278MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
Dual AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series Graphics Card
Post edited by Gate70 on

Comments

  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,054
    It's an engine bug in all the games, not just IWD specific.

    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/34276/known-5775-multiplayer-familiar-issue
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    edited November 2014
    Weird. Hopefully its still planning to be fixed. Seems to affect more than multilayer -- This was just me creating and playing party by myself.
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    I wonder if there's a "quick fix" to reassign a familiar to a different mage... maybe using EE Keeper or something similar. I haven't had much luck as of yet.
  • Gate70Gate70 Member, Developer Posts: 3,872
    edited November 2014
    (comment removed as not correct)
    Thanks
    Post edited by Gate70 on
  • Avenger_teambgAvenger_teambg Member, Developer Posts: 5,862
    You cannot have 2 familiars, there is only one familiar summoner in a game. So you cannot assign the 2 familiars to two different people.
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    edited November 2014
    Avenger_teambg said:

    You cannot have 2 familiars, there is only one familiar summoner in a game. So you cannot assign the 2 familiars to two different people.

    Not sure I understand (sorry). You *can* have 2 familiars if 2 mages both cast the spell at the same time - they are just bugged and only respond to the one caster. Are you saying that by design, the EE games should only allow for one familiar for one mage to be summoned, regardless of number of mages in a party?
  • macomeaumacomeau Member Posts: 80
    @HaHaCharade‌ Correct.
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    edited November 2014
    @macomeau

    Blah. That's lame considering there's no real precedent for one-familiar parties in pen and paper AD&D. I'm curious, was this a limitation in the original BG2? And is it just due to system limitations? If so, I'd maybe note it in the spell description that only one can be in play for a party, regardless of the number of mages.
  • Gate70Gate70 Member, Developer Posts: 3,872
    The original BG2 restricted familiars to the protagonist only.
    & I believe the IWD scroll has "Note: Only one party member may have a familiar."
    Thanks
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    Gate70 said:

    The original BG2 restricted familiars to the protagonist only.
    & I believe the IWD scroll has "Note: Only one party member may have a familiar."
    Thanks

    I see the note now. Thanks!
  • RedrakeRedrake Member Posts: 426
    Sounds to me that from this point of view, IWD EE is IWD Baldurized EE. Why not fix this issue?
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    Redrake said:

    Sounds to me that from this point of view, IWD EE is IWD Baldurized EE. Why not fix this issue?

    I tend to agree, however if its just not worth the effort involved I can understand that as well. Still, when I summoned two by casting the spell at the same time, they behaved perfectly except for them responding to only one mage instead of two. Given that I wouldn't think it would be a huge fix, but then again what do I know?
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