Memorized spells order
metaentity
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I have looked around, but I haven't found an answer yet. In case this problem had already been solved, please link the appropriate thread.
I am playing BG2EE v2.2.
I have come across at least two instances where the order in which you memorize the spells actually matters:
- Level drain
- Simulacrum
With level drain, spell slots are lost from right to left. This means I have trouble protecting "True Seeing" from being lost to a level drain, since it is last in the lvl5 spell list.
Even more annoying is Simulacrum, for which I cannot control which spells it is going to end up with (it keeps the leftmost spells), since it is essentially a level drained clone of the caster. Again, good luck retaining Stoneskin or Spell Shield.
Is there an option to revert to vanilla BG2 memorization, which lets you choose which spell to memorize in which slot? If not, is there any other way way around this?
I am playing BG2EE v2.2.
I have come across at least two instances where the order in which you memorize the spells actually matters:
- Level drain
- Simulacrum
With level drain, spell slots are lost from right to left. This means I have trouble protecting "True Seeing" from being lost to a level drain, since it is last in the lvl5 spell list.
Even more annoying is Simulacrum, for which I cannot control which spells it is going to end up with (it keeps the leftmost spells), since it is essentially a level drained clone of the caster. Again, good luck retaining Stoneskin or Spell Shield.
Is there an option to revert to vanilla BG2 memorization, which lets you choose which spell to memorize in which slot? If not, is there any other way way around this?
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@Arunsun I am currently playing in v2.2 and the spell memorization order is fixed, spells are memorized in alphabetical order. If you delete a spell and add it back again it does not take up the rightmost slot, it is added in the middle according to the alphabetical order.
I didn't know about that. So silly. Can't stop laughing.
And people wonder why I stick to the originals. Unbelievable.
It's a shame, really.
Of course the player now must remember the order, so it should definitelly be amended and the alphabetical sort should be removed.
Here you can see Imoen's spells after a tough battle. This is her spellbook for level 8 and 6 after the level drain:
Level 8 drained
Level 6 drained
Here you can see what happens by just casting the restoration spell: every spell that used to be memorized goes back into place without having to reselect it. Call me lazy, but I like it.
The only bug I see is the one pointed out by the clever testing of @Pecca . This is Imoen's drained level 7.
I think the only thing to fix is the alphabetical ordering of memorized spells.
Shall me make a new Ticket for that?
One can also comment on the mis-interpreted old Ticket to make sure it's not "improved" by mistake that way.
@rede9 Sorry for the confusion, I meant English alphabetical order. For the problems outlined in my first post and Pecca's, I feel the only good reordering of memorized spells is "no reordering": spells shouldn't be reordered, and in case of level drain you should lose the spells you see on the right. This excludes any kind of reordering.
About the spell ordering in the Spellbook, it appears to me that this is more an UI matter as I think it does not affect gameplay, but it might still deserve attention. I like the idea, why don' t you start a new thread and post a few pictures of how your spellbook looks in a non-English version?
From the report by @metaentity "a solution... to remove the alphabetical sort... might very well be the solution when a developer look at the problem from http://support.baldursgate.com/issues/24030 since that would be the easiest one"