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Considering a Walk on the Dark Side?

HalfOrcBeastmasterHalfOrcBeastmaster Member Posts: 301
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If you don't mind me asking, do any D&D video games, campaigns or mods exist that put the player in a position to be genuinely evil?

And when I say that, I don't mean wandering around a village murdering random villagers and law enforcement or picking pockets or any of that kick the dog stuff. I don't mean playing through a basically benevolent campaign as a blackguard or Dark Moon monk or cleric of Umberlee, doing the right thing for the wrong reasons (money, cover up your evil nature etc) or anything small-time like that. No chance.

I'm talking about a game that puts the player in the role of the villain. We're the bad guys, but we triumph anyway because we're the player character(s). We may go after the servants of good deities. We may go to the occasional village and enslave its enhabitants to sell for cash (or to build a statue of ourselves). Maybe we have selfish or evil motives from the outset, and the only measurement of "morality" or "karma" is whether we become bona fide Evil with a capital E or an evil, but with motivations/limits type.

I've gone looking around for an answer, but I seem to be coming up short. I mean, not for nothing, but the only time I ever feel like I'm genuinely pursuing an evil agenda is when I'm doing Dorn's sidequests. Going up against crusaders, celestial beings, good-aligned dragons - and our motives are definitely selfish or evil. Other than that, I feel like evil isn't generally in action - or encouraged. Evil characters are a lot more specialised than Good or Neutral, but actually being evil gets you nowhere fast. Choosing evil doesn't even feel worth it - in BG, unless you're like me and ruthlessly exploit the opportunities to cheat your ass off, you're stuck maintaining a good reputation if you want to actually get anywhere.

So I'm asking you, are there any D&D games that let me play baddie and put my back into it, aside from NwN2 (which I already have)? And on an unrelated note, are there any that make use of the warlord class?

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  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    Sadly there aren't many such D&D games that focus on evil aligned protagonists in a sufficient manner. In fact other than NwN2's Mask of the Betrayer expansion pack, the only other title which comes to mind is Planescape: Torment. I recommend playing the Nameless One with outstanding Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores for especially cruel dialogue choices.

    If you're inclined to try NwN1 custom modules, there's also the rather refreshing Blackguard series for some Talos flavour.
  • ScourgeScourge Member Posts: 97
    There are no true evil choices in planetscape torment. They are just sadic choice, they don't make you more powerful or help you in any way during the campaign.
    In fact, some of the evil choices can be really regarded as stupid evil choices.

    I agree on your idea of MOTB being the only campaign available for evil people.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    edited January 2015
    There is a NWN1 mod called "Blackguard" , where you play a warrior who desires revenge against an entire city, and eventually becomes a blackguard. I strongly recommend it for an evil playthrough. There is another one called "Assassin : Shadows in Shander" , which also follows an evil path.
  • ScourgeScourge Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2015
    @djkajuru I'm completely ignorant about NWN. Would you mind telling me where do I find those 'mods'? Searching on google nets no result.

    I also read about 'Dark path' here: http://forum.bioware.com/topic/206741-blackguard-module-forgot-the-name/ but I wasn't able to find anything..

    Edit: found everything I needed inside this website:

    http://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn2/module/path-evil
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    Well, Neverwinter Nights 1 is a DnD game from 2003/2004 , which also has an application called Aurora toolset, that allows you to create scenarios for others to play. They're called modules.

    You can buy it on the internet relatively cheap , since it's an "old" game. The module which I was talking about is this one:
    http://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/module/blackguard-i-dreams-destruction
  • HalfOrcBeastmasterHalfOrcBeastmaster Member Posts: 301
    So, super late update, but I believe I have found a game that, while it may not be the game I had in mind, is close enough to serve as a surrogate. That would be the game Overlord and its sequel Overlord II. I highly recommend you give them a look if you haven't already.
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