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Confused about Thalantyr (minor spoiler)

I'm a bit confused here. I entered, spoke to Thal, and on the second time he agreed to sell me some goods. But I've not been able to buy from him since. He just tells me "I have nothing more to say to you. Leave me."
I'm not hostile with him, the golems don't attack.

If I cannot buy from him any more, I may as well kill him and take his loot, no?

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  • XivirielXiviriel Member Posts: 166
    Have you brought him Melicamp yet? Try that
  • Metal_HurlantMetal_Hurlant Member Posts: 324
    Don't attack the golems because it will turn Thalantyr hostile in BGEE. Something the original game didn't do.
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    Talk to him for the first time: "Blah blah strangers on property leave me." *Turns golems neutral*
    Second time: "I certainly hope you have a good reason for bothering me ..." follow this to "unless of course you want to buy stuff."

    From here on out...

    Talk to him once: "I have nothing more to say to you. Leave me."
    Talk to him twice: "I certainly hope you have a good reason for bothering me ..." follow this to "unless of course you want to buy stuff."

    It will loop once after that. So you would end up with:

    Talk to him once: "I have nothing more to say to you. Leave me."
    Talk to him twice: "I certainly hope you have a good reason for bothering me ..." follow this to "unless of course you want to buy stuff."
    Talk to him thrice: "I have nothing more to say to you. Leave me."
    Talk to him four times: "I certainly hope you have a good reason for bothering me ..." follow this to "unless of course you want to buy stuff."
    Talk to him five times: "I have nothing more to say to you. Leave me."
    Talk to him six times: "I certainly hope you have a good reason for bothering me ..." follow this to "unless of course you want to buy stuff."

    You get the drift.

    AKA, you gave up too fast.
  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438

    Don't attack the golems because it will turn Thalantyr hostile in BGEE. Something the original game didn't do.

    Unless the golems inexplicably attack you, you pull them outside and disassemble them for delicious experience points... Hint, hint.
  • Metal_HurlantMetal_Hurlant Member Posts: 324


    Unless the golems inexplicably attack you, you pull them outside and disassemble them for delicious experience points... Hint, hint.


    How do you lure them outside without hitting them? As soon as I hit one and run outside with a golem following me, Thalantyr has turned hostile.
  • styggastygga Member Posts: 467
    Don't hit them until they follow you outside, before you talk to Thalantyr I think he's saying.
  • CoM_SolaufeinCoM_Solaufein Member Posts: 2,606
    I see the change in the flesh golem's script compared to the original BG version of their script. I'll mention this to the powers that be.
  • Metal_HurlantMetal_Hurlant Member Posts: 324
    stygga said:

    Don't hit them until they follow you outside, before you talk to Thalantyr I think he's saying.

    The problem is they don't follow you outside. The only way for them to follow you outside is to hit them.
  • styggastygga Member Posts: 467
    @com_solaufein the change was intentional. I believe. And oh well, don't kill them? makes no sense you could kill his bodyguards and he'd be okay trading with you...
  • SpaceInvaderSpaceInvader Member Posts: 2,125

    I see the change in the flesh golem's script compared to the original BG version of their script. I'll mention this to the powers that be.

    It is intentional, and makes a lot of sense as @stygga said
  • ElofElof Member Posts: 42
    It's actually entirely intentional that the golems *will* attack you if you don't speak to Thalantyr first. There's a bloke in one of the Inns in Beregost (someone Windspear, I think in the Jovial Juggler upstairs) who can tell you about High Hedge and he mentions that if you go there you need to see the mage immediately because his golems are set to attack strangers.

  • Metal_HurlantMetal_Hurlant Member Posts: 324
    Okay, so you have to kill the golems before you talk to Thalantyr. sighs.

    From a powergaming perspective, all this will do is have people ignore High Hedge until they're around level 4 or 5 and then go back and kill his golems and then talk to Thalantyr. I guess that's what I'll have to do from now on.
  • SpaceInvaderSpaceInvader Member Posts: 2,125
    edited December 2012

    Okay, so you have to kill the golems before you talk to Thalantyr. sighs.

    From a powergaming perspective, all this will do is have people ignore High Hedge until they're around level 4 or 5 and then go back and kill his golems and then talk to Thalantyr. I guess that's what I'll have to do from now on.

    No, what you have to do is talk to Thalantyr BEFORE you meet the golems. So they will turn neutral.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    I've seen neither hide nor hair of T.'s flesh golems. Are they stationary in the back now?

    Although Thalantyr blows you off at first, if you speak with him again and you'll get a dialog option from which he'll do business with you.
  • Metal_HurlantMetal_Hurlant Member Posts: 324



    No, what you have to do is talk to Thalantyr BEFORE you meet the golems. So they will turn neutral.

    I don't want them to turn neutral. I wan't to kill them for the XP and then speak to Thalantyr. If you speak to Thalantyr first, you then miss out on 4000xp.

    In the original, you could kill them anytime and still get the xp. In this version, it seems you have to kill them before speaking to Thalantyr.
  • SpaceInvaderSpaceInvader Member Posts: 2,125
    If you attack the golem he won't complain.
  • SuiboonSuiboon Member Posts: 86
    Leave those poor golems alone you brute.
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