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SamuelVargSamuelVarg Member Posts: 598
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I play a neatral thief and have Dorn in my party.
Since you get + in reputation around every corner in BGI I have tried to lover my reputation by stealing.

It is not going well. I'm not getting any loss in reputation - even if they catch me with my hands in the cookie jar.

Are there special stores and people I have to rob to get a lover reputation?

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    I thought I remembered getting a -1 or -2 to reputation when guards come to arrest me for stealing and you tell them to screw off. I think only with the flaming fist though. Also, I could be wrong altogether.
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  • SamuelVargSamuelVarg Member Posts: 598
    They guards want to kill me to. No reputation loss as far as I can see.

    I have tried to steal from shopowners, commoners and NPC:s. Nothing seems to work.
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    I know that they still try and kill you, but I thought that picking a certain conversation option when they first confront you would give you a small reputation hit, at least with one of the types of guards. Yeah, I could easily just be remembering wrong though.
  • baaddarebaaddare Member Posts: 145
    no your right it is just not with all the gaurds..i took a big hit today when i had im take a few things
  • MadhaxMadhax Member Posts: 1,416
    I'm having the same problem and it's really pissing me off. I want to keep my reputation comfortably high without going past 18, but I either get it too high or it plummets back to 9-10.

    However, I should mention that when I reached 19, Dorn only went through his "are you sure you want me to leave?" dialogue, as if I had kicked him out. I could tell him to stay, and he would. Not sure how permanent that would be, since I reloaded immediately because Kagain dropped. It's possible that, either by oversight or intentionally, Dorn sticks around even with high reputation.
  • IkMarcIkMarc Member Posts: 552
    Just kill some npc's. Playing on 17 reputation with an evil party is stupid anyway.
  • thedemoninsidethedemoninside Member Posts: 188
    Best thing I found was to install a mod that made store prices not dependent on reputation at all, since I found that "feature" to be stupid. I then killed people here and there, and if you pick the last dialogue option when guards confront you for stealing, it's a -1 to rep.

    A good balance is to try and do good for most of the main quests that give rep, and be a lieing/stealing/murdering assface the rest of the time. My rep is 11 now I think and i've killed alot of people.

    Also there are quite a bit of NPC's that don't lower your reputation when you kill them, even though you would think they should. Alot of the wilderness encounters you can purposefully make go horribly, kill the npc, and go on your marry way unpunished.
  • MadhaxMadhax Member Posts: 1,416
    IkMarc said:

    Just kill some npc's. Playing on 17 reputation with an evil party is stupid anyway.

    How is that stupid? I'm playing evil, but I'm not playing as some chaos-worshiping sociopath hell-bent on watching the world burn. I'm playing an amoral fighter-thief intent on improving his power and influence through any means necessary, and that often means making allies and crafting a positive image of myself. I do good things for bad reasons, in other words.

  • EnterHaerDalisEnterHaerDalis Member Posts: 813
    I just killed a halfing in Gullykin to lower myself to 9 from 19

    The flaming fist officers chase you out of the house when you tell them off so prepare yourself for that

    Best way to do it I think is to get to like 18 or 19 rep and then just kill an innocent discreetly and drop it down. You could always pick up Viconia for a classy -2 to the party rep :)
  • MadhaxMadhax Member Posts: 1,416
    Ugh. Did the Phandalyn thing, lost 9 rep. Isn't there some way I could drop down to, like, 14-15?
  • SamuelVargSamuelVarg Member Posts: 598
    Still. I want to rpg. And I play a thief. Not a murderer.

    Does anybody know how to het a reputation loss by stealing?
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  • SamuelVargSamuelVarg Member Posts: 598
    OK - here is the deal for me.

    I loose reputation if i try to steal something in the city of Baldurs Gate - but not out side of it.
  • bigdogchrisbigdogchris Member Posts: 1,336
    What is the reputation loss from injuring an innocent?
  • thedemoninsidethedemoninside Member Posts: 188
    I thought rep loss depended on how high your reputation was before incurring the penalty. If you are at like 19, you would lose 9 or 10, but if your rep was only 8, you might lose only 2. That's how it seemed on the 2 evil runs I played.
  • baaddarebaaddare Member Posts: 145
    SamuelVarg said:

    Still. I want to rpg. And I play a thief. Not a murderer.

    Does anybody know how to het a reputation loss by stealing?

    Get caught and then kill the guards that come to arrest you.

  • rdarkenrdarken Member Posts: 660
    You actually just lose the reputation for getting caught, without killing the guards.
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    edited December 2012
    rdarken said:

    You actually just lose the reputation for getting caught, without killing the guards.

    I think it's only certain guards though. You may also have to choose a certain dialogue option when they confront you to get the reputation loss.
    Post edited by TJ_Hooker on
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited December 2012
    TJ_Hooker said:

    rdarken said:

    You actually just lose the reputation for getting caught, without killing the guards.

    I think it's only certain guards though. You also may have to choose a certain dialogue option when they confront you to get the reputation loss.
    Yea I know the Nashkel guards won't cause you to lose reputation even if you fail to bribe them. You also don't lose it if you fail to successfully steal from the Nashkel store.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    edited December 2012
    thedemoninside said:

    I thought rep loss depended on how high your reputation was before incurring the penalty. If you are at like 19, you would lose 9 or 10, but if your rep was only 8, you might lose only 2. That's how it seemed on the 2 evil runs I played.

    That's for killing, not stealing.

    For stealing, you always lose 1 reputation point if you're confronted by a Flaming Fist Enforcer (not one of the Amnish soldiers in Nashkel) and your reputation is 9 or higher. It doesn't matter what you say since they don't take bribes.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    iirc, there is also someone in Baldur's Gate who you can rob to lose 2 rep. That person is
    Noblewoman Sarah in the Helm and Cloak
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    edited December 2012
    Yep, because she's an emissary from Amn. :D Too bad there's no followup to her threat.

    You can also extort money from the noblewoman who pays you to kill Cyrdemac to get -1 rep. But it's sadly not repeatable.
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