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  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    @DarkDogg That would make the most sense. A lot of players definitely would not like being required to play BG:EE with him in order to use him in BG2:EE.
  • DarkDoggDarkDogg Member Posts: 598
    @Lemernis
    If he could be imported into BG2 like in BGT - then it would be more sense to play with him in BG1. Give him darts, single wep prof, hide in shadows and much more important - TOMES. In TOB his phys stats could be raised to 18/18/18
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    Also, at level 13 he'll get Quivering Palm, i.e., the capacity to kill with a single strike. Save or die.
  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    Lemernis said:

    Also, at level 13 he'll get Quivering Palm, i.e., the capacity to kill with a single strike. Save or die.

    Once with a monk CHARNAME I used Quivering Palm against Firkraag. I wasn't really expecting it to work because he has really good saves, but he must have had a very bad roll because he died in the first round.
  • KaltzorKaltzor Member Posts: 1,050
    Well, low level monks are like less impressive fighters, unless you change the XP cap and level him up I dunno if any monk is all that great in BG1 content.
  • WilburWilbur Member Posts: 1,173
    edited January 2013
    I just noticed Rasaad has max 7 hp at level one. Shouldn't he have 8?

    Edit. I tested different difficulties upon recruiting him too so it must be a bug. Like he wasn't weak enough already :)
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  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    Wilbur said:

    I just noticed Rasaad has max 7 hp at level one. Shouldn't he have 8?

    Edit. I tested different difficulties upon recruiting him too so it must be a bug. Like he wasn't weak enough already :)

    @Wilbur

    It's not a bug. NPCs will only get maximum HP at the lower difficulties levels when they are in your party and you level them. The initial HP are predetermined and usually below the maximum.

    In particular Rasaad will always have

    7 HP if recruited at level 1 by a level 1 PC
    13 HP if recruited at level 2 by a level 2 PC
    28 HP if recruited at level 4 by a level 3+ PC

    irrespective of the difficulty level.
  • WilburWilbur Member Posts: 1,173
    @Erg

    I was under the impression that npcs would also have max hp at level 1. Also I think all the other BG:EE npcs you can recruit at level 1 do start with max HP.
  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    It is random.

    Neera has maximum HP, but only if you recruit her at level 1, Dorn has 8 HP (instead of 10) at level 1.
  • WilburWilbur Member Posts: 1,173
    @Erg

    Okay, thanks for help.

    I'm thinking of maybe giving the con tome to Rasaad. Does anyone know if increased stats (other than pc's) will carry out to BG2:EE?
  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    Wilbur said:

    Does anyone know if increased stats (other than pc's) will carry out to BG2:EE?

    They didn't in vanilla or tutu BG, I don't know if they will carry in BG2:EE.

    However, you can eventually edit NPC stats with tools like Shadowkeeper. It isn't cheating if you do so just to give them back tome stats.
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    Erg said:

    Wilbur said:

    Does anyone know if increased stats (other than pc's) will carry out to BG2:EE?

    They didn't in vanilla or tutu BG, I don't know if they will carry in BG2:EE.

    However, you can eventually edit NPC stats with tools like Shadowkeeper. It isn't cheating if you do so just to give them back tome stats.
    I'm going to do this for Dorn, who I gave the Charisma tome to in BGEE
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    Lemernis said:

    As I believe Quartz once said, if you can't keep him alive then you're probably not very good at playing Baldur's Gate.

    For clarification I said that about Khalid, but I would certainly say the very same about Rasaad. Hell, it's probably even more applicable here. I appreciate the nod :)
    Wilbur said:

    I just noticed Rasaad has max 7 hp at level one. Shouldn't he have 8?

    Edit. I tested different difficulties upon recruiting him too so it must be a bug. Like he wasn't weak enough already :)

    Not a bug but a very stupid oversight. All the other NPCs in the game have max HP at level 1 except for Rasaad and Dorn. Whoops.
  • WilburWilbur Member Posts: 1,173
    @Erg @Oxford_Guy

    I think I'm gonna SK it then if that's what it takes. I don't want to waste it since my mc has 14 con and would benefit from it too.
  • MykraMykra Member Posts: 252
    Just wondering, has anyone used Rasaad with some items imported from Black Pits? I noticed they had gloves that screamed Monk (+4 THAC0/+4 Damage to unarmed), and various protection and avoidance items. Seems like you could kit him out to be absolutely beastly (just like any other NPC, o'course).
  • KushuKushu Member Posts: 70
    ...I...Dorn's Bi?
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    Kushu said:

    ...I...Dorn's Bi?

    Dorn is a 6ft tall half-orc blackguard, he can be whatever he wants.

  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    edited January 2013
    Wilbur said:

    @Erg

    I was under the impression that npcs would also have max hp at level 1. Also I think all the other BG:EE npcs you can recruit at level 1 do start with max HP.

    Quartz said:

    Not a bug but a very stupid oversight. All the other NPCs in the game have max HP at level 1 except for Rasaad and Dorn. Whoops.

    @Wilbur
    @Quartz

    With the new patch Dorn has 10 HP at level 1, so now Rasaad is the only NPC with less then max HP at level 1.
  • XavioriaXavioria Member Posts: 874
    Is Rasaad the gay one? Or is Dorn the gay one?
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    edited January 2013
    @Xavioria
    Xavioria said:

    Is Rasaad the gay one? Or is Dorn the gay one?

    Rasaad's straight, Dorn is bisexual.

    It's 'cuz he lusts after power. You = Bhaalspawn. Bhaalspawn = Power. Power = Makes Dorn hot. Pretty lame but there you have it.
  • XavioriaXavioria Member Posts: 874
    @Quartz thank you, this information makes me very happy. Dorn is awesome, and Rasaad isn't all that powerful... yet anyways, and I don't think I could travel around the world in 80 days with Rasaad on my arm. Besides, I don't really like goodie goodies anyways.

    And I wouldn't call it lame... perhaps it's a bit linear and simple... I guess calling it lame means the same thing?
  • KorlamaqKorlamaq Member Posts: 216
    i cant stand the way he spells selooneh so i never take him with me :P
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    Xavioria said:

    And I wouldn't call it lame... perhaps it's a bit linear and simple... I guess calling it lame means the same thing?

    There we go. Linear and simple. That's what I was looking for.
  • ArchaosArchaos Member Posts: 1,421
    Rasaad is a good NPC... in BG2EE.
    Like some have said, he's an investment. Also, think of it as a challenge. Like another Khalid or Xan etc. Not the best, but if you wanted the best powergaming party, you either go Evil or multiplayer. ;)

    In the early levels, use ranged weapons when you can change proficiencies or use a Wakizashi/Scimitar/Ninjato with Single-Weapon Style when you get it.

    With Monks, for levels 1-10 play them as Thieves, then after 10-12 play them as Warriors. ;)
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